Stucco Staples or stucco Furring Nails, Staples are better as the stucco lath is self-furred.
Stucco Staples or Furring Nails are furring nails better for stucco lathing or stucco staples.
Hello, all our subscribers want information on whether or not to use stucco Staples or furring Nails.
The question is, are furring nails better for stucco lathing or stucco staples.
If you are curious about the size of staples or furring nails required to attach stucco netting or wire to exterior walls.
You can use furring nails or more modern equipment as we have been doing for forty years. When using an air-powered staple lath gun, remember, 7/8 of the leg has got to be embedded into the stud, which usually means with plywood sheathing, your best bet is to buy (Inch and a Quarter Crown Staples) with a width or crown of one inch to keep up with current inspections or codes.
Naturally, if you’re attaching stucco netting to stud walls, all you need are furring nails 7/8 in length, However with the 1980 code compliance for building homes, the contractors must use plywood sheathing, so whether or not your using furring nails or staples, an inch and a quarter length is code compliant.
Lath is simply the first step in the stucco process.
First, you attached two layers of Grade D paper or two layers of 60-minute paper to protect the plywood substrate from rainwater damage.
60 Minute, two-ply jumbo-tex building paper is a weather-resistant barrier designed to provide excellent secondary protection behind exterior cladding to prevent moisture penetration and condensation in exterior wall assemblies. Once the moister barrier membrane is tacked on.
Galvanized steel stucco netting is then attached.
Galvanized-steel-Stucco-Netting 17 or 18 gauge galvanized woven wire stucco netting is used to reinforce paper for exterior Portland cement stucco walls.
You can use furring nails or more modern equipment as we have been doing for forty years, ‘Staples’ using an air-powered staple lath gun, remember, 7/8 of the leg has got to be embedded into the stud, which usually means with plywood sheathing your best bet is to buy, inch and a quarter staple or nail.
(Inch and a Quarter Crown Staples) with a width or crown of one inch to keep up with current inspections or codes.
Lastly, don’t get too carried away with the staples, as more is not better.
The right amount is better. For example, if you staple the crap out of the stucco netting, it’s will become too flat. Thus it isn’t furred any longer.
If the stucco can’t go under the netting, that’s not good.
You want stucco under and on top of the stucco netting; similarly to Dobies for concrete, the concrete is stronger when the rebar is held off the ground a few inches.
Thus the concrete goes under and over with the rebar in the middle.
That achieves maximum strength.
Lastly, staple or nail the stucco netting about every 6 inches into the studs is cMake.
Making sure your furring is against the wall so that your netting is 99% off the wall. What happens if you attached the netting backward?
The stucco does not hang well, for starters, and cant achieve its maximum strength as the stucco netting is not completely useless but instead compromised.
Jason, my son, had us do this video below to answer how to lath in as little time as possible for all you folks like us and want advice as fast as possible. https://youtu.be/MPKX9A5rPkk/
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self furrr?,,
never mind.il ask mr.google.
I tacked up the tar paper with an actual hand-help stapler and 3/8" staples. Then followed by putting up the lathe with roofing nails. I hope the house doesn't fall down, LOL. We don't have earthquakes here in Maryland so we'll probably be okay. I put stone over the lathe and it looks good. I did it all as a week-end warrior without any experience so I'm happy with it. I do enjoy watching your videos, even though I finished my project about a year ago.
self furrr?,,
Morning majorkonfuzion, all stucco netting today and for the last 40 years is self furring, Furring nails are not necessary.
Of course if you don't have a set up with compressor and gun you can use any nails as long as they go into the stud a minimum of 7/8, you must also account for the sheathing.
Cheers,
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never mind.il ask mr.google.
Morning majorkonfuzion, Google is the most clever source of information, ever.
However many questions can have multiple answers, sometime you read and think, perfect my question answered, then sometimes, it's sort of confusing as there are many ways to repair stuff so contractions are normal,
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I tacked up the tar paper with an actual hand-help stapler and 3/8" staples. Then followed by putting up the lathe with roofing nails. I hope the house doesn't fall down, LOL. We don't have earthquakes here in Maryland so we'll probably be okay. I put stone over the lathe and it looks good. I did it all as a week-end warrior without any experience so I'm happy with it. I do enjoy watching your videos, even though I finished my project about a year ago.
Hi Laura B, your project should last forever as most staple guns and nails can be used for roofing or stucco,
best wishes,
kirk giordano
Great video on furring nails !! Do they make paper that self seals an does not tear ? Deep furred wire means a longer prong holding wire away from paper for stucco . cheers Bro TU . Peter
Hello Mr. Giordano how are , I just had to say how jolly nice all your videos are, very informative. I wish you lived here in the UK as I have some spa dash rendering to do on my house and it would be rather nice to have it done properly by you and your son. We don't have many wooden houses in England most are brick or stone . Some , like mine are brick with spa dashing ( scratch coat and top coat with spa thrown at it ) . Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to make these videos , it really is rather decent of you old chap. The wife and I watch all your videos we like your accent very much did you used to do the voice for Topcat . Anyhow " until the next time " toodle pip old chap.
Off topic, we now have to alternate our layers of paper when doing two ply black paper over paneling. One single layer, then change elevation of second layer. How is code over where you are at?
Great video on furring nails !! Do they make paper that self seals an does not tear ? Deep furred wire means a longer prong holding wire away from paper for stucco . cheers Bro TU . Peter
Hi Peter, Good question,
this paper is a great exterior weathering moisture barrier, plus by code, there are two layers.
All membranes no mater what they are made of must be penetrated by staples, in order to attach stucco netting. nails, staples, hand staples, ledger board attache to these membranes do not harm the them or me and the thousands of other contractors as well as distributors and manufactures around the U.S. would be out of
business 🙂
That would mean we would be forced to sit around doing nothing except drink margaritas all day with fancy itty bitty umbrellas in them.
Besides, not if but when a hole or tear happens in any membrane a quality Polyurethane sealant and adhesives caulking can be used to seal it right back up again.
cheers,
kirk giordano plastering
Hello Mr. Giordano how are , I just had to say how jolly nice all your videos are, very informative. I wish you lived here in the UK as I have some spa dash rendering to do on my house and it would be rather nice to have it done properly by you and your son. We don't have many wooden houses in England most are brick or stone . Some , like mine are brick with spa dashing ( scratch coat and top coat with spa thrown at it ) . Thank you for taking time out of your busy day to make these videos , it really is rather decent of you old chap. The wife and I watch all your videos we like your accent very much did you used to do the voice for Topcat . Anyhow " until the next time " toodle pip old chap.
Howdy Tony Cobb, I did like the cartoon "topcat," he had a cool comical voice, but that's my real voice.
BTW, I visit England semi yearly to visit me wife's parents, their house is well over 500 years old and built out of boulders with a thatched roof which is really cool looking.
Cheers,
kirk giordano
Off topic, we now have to alternate our layers of paper when doing two ply black paper over paneling. One single layer, then change elevation of second layer. How is code over where you are at?
Howdy 69 dude, over her we can get away with spot glued, this still allows both papers to shift, but at least if your up three stories on on scaffolding running a fifty foot wall the layer won't detach while you left holding one layer and the second layer is 20 feet below, man, I hated that nonsense.
Cheers,
kirk giordano plastering
I seen people use the ones that aren't furred to stretch th wire is that necessary
I seen people use the ones that aren't furred to stretch th wire is that necessary
Morning dnn187, you can do this.
The point I was trying to make with this video, was that furring nails are not necessary.
staples are preferred, or you can use what ever nail you have as long as their galvanized and penetrate the stud by at least 7/8 of an inch.
Cheers.
kirk giordano
Are those staples galvanized?
Are those staples galvanized?
Howdy B Carr, yes the staple are galvanized as they are for the exterior.
Cheers,
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Not sure why but every time you waved that stable gun i ducked :):)
Not sure why but every time you waved that stable gun i ducked :):)
Morning macplastering, hey dude, that means your aware of their strength,
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@Kirk & Jason Giordano's plastering & stucco tips Haha all power tools like that are strong buddy I used a hilti gun before dam they have a kick have a great Easter 🙂
Morning Mac plastering, thank you and may you and yours have a wonderful relaxing Easter also,
cheers,
kirk giordano
do u ever use Styrofoam or. make Stone or brick. patterns. ?
Evening T BoK, sometime as in the video below,
https://youtu.be/T5kA6KdfAE8
https://youtu.be/6nEIzmy1LcY
best wishes,
kirk giordano Plastering
+Kirk & Jason Giordano's plastering & stucco tips awesome. you nailed it . The majestic Ashlar pattern is old castle stone look I just tool em in. with a level. (butterfield color. ) .com. up north. here. I heard insulate the outside is the new way. up to 6 inch styro. then Render. You ROCK !
I was on a job once and the stucco man used bent over nails for an addition and the inspector made him installe furring nails. this was about 1990 in central California. Personally I make repairs with pre furred wire and use bent over 8d or 16 d nails. Those furring nails are slow. I was wondering why I run into staples all the time now I know.
Evening Anthony Romano, the idea is you're supposed to have at least 7/8 of a nail or staple in the stud under the sheathing as a rule, for the pounds per square inch rule, if you bend the nail upwards this is allowed, to bend them down will get flagged by an inspector every time.
There is an obvious reason for this.
best wishes,
kirk giordano
Thanks for making this videos 😉 I learn so much from you boos..!
Howdy blue dude, thank you,
best wishes,
kirk giordano
Have you ever used expanded metal lathe? It seems to be all that is stocked around me. Wondering if its worthwhile to extra expensive of ordering from afar.
Hello, yes, I have used much expanded metal lath,
I find it necessary for ceilings but use the stucco netting for walls,
cheers,
kirk giordano
Can I use a 1/4 crown 1-1/2 inch stapler to attach lath?
Howdy Joe, I have seen this done many times by homeowners, which had lath inspections, however the correct answer ,I don't know as I personally have never used these narrow staples, sorry,
I would advise you to call the permits department or ask your inspector.
Best wishes,
kirk giordano
Thanks Kurt. Your videos are great and I appreciate the advice.
That's good to know. Thanks!
Good Evening Programmer dude, thank you brother
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I really appreciate your channel, so many questions have been answered here! Knowing how to do something and teaching how to do something are two different trades, and you have mastered both. Thank you.
Howdy Marco dude,
I'm coping my reply from above as it fits your comment, thank you my friend.
I'm still doing it after more than 35 years and love it more than the day I started.
Man, I must be truly blessed to love this stuff or damned good at it.
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get to the house an hour before dawn…..lay out my materials for the day….stretch my hose as far as it will need to go….set my scaffold…..keep EVERYBODY outta my way…..and HIT THAT WALL before first light!….finished product BEFORE you move the scaffold….ya…did it for 20 years in Arizona…..i'm done!
Howdy Miner dude, I'm still doing it after more than 35 years and love it more than the day I started.
Man, I must be truly blessed to love this stuff or damned good at it.
Live long and plaster,
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Which lath is better. The one I see on your video looks like chicken wire fence. Pretty big holes.
Then theres the one that is alot smaller like diamonds shapes.
Diffrence?
Thanks
Morning Blue Dude, 17 and 18 gauge are both acceptable for walls.
The diamond shapes mesh is also called 3.4 wire mesh, it's designed for ceilings, yes some people use on walls but this is not what this 3.4 or diamond metal mesh is designed for.
FYI, 20 gauge wire is used for either setting tile or chicken coops, not for stucco.
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The "diamond shaped" lathe is for overhead, like under a soffit.
do you need to caulk over all the staple holes?
Morning Stevie, no,
However, if anyone tears the paper using furring nails or staples then that tear shold be caulked.
Best wishes,
Kirk and Jason Giordano plastering
Thank you sir. I too didn't know until now. I love your vid's and tips. They truly help me grow a pair and try tasks that I would otherwise put off.
Btw, is that a Harbor Freight staple gun? Same color.
Good morning Happy dude, the gun in the video is a Senco stapler, their roofing gun, and Pw gun we as lather use to attach the stucco netting are very similar.
Anyone can view this gun with a picture on the site in our description, or click the link here. https://www.stuccoplastering.com/tools
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That’s fucked up cuz u still on his video checking his work . Scandalous I hope his family is not like that fucked up
Good afternoon B, this is a rated G channel, no swearing my friend.
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Just as an FYI. I work for a developer of multi-family housing. We had a project that had significant water intrusion issues. During the destructive testing, we found that many of the staples had penetrated the plywood and not the stud. They were all rusted. When we water tested, we watched water come right in the stud bays and drip off the end of each staple. While this same thing happens I'm sure with furring nails; when someone takes the time to nail, they can better ensure by feel that they hit a stud, and avoid what can be a significant amount of water getting in to the stud bays. Those that use staples tend to randomly staple so most of them do not hit the stud.
Good afternoon Bruce, staple guns need maintenance, I have replaced the bumpers at least 10 times with my staple guns when the bumper disintegrates the staples will penetrate the paper membrane, while sometimes embedding at least 1/4 inch below the plywood.
This creates leaks everywhere. It's not the staple it the gun failure, I have seen this often. As a licensed contractor, I have to be on the ball when I notice this happening, then replace that gun and correct it when I have the time.
It takes about 20 minutes to install new bumpers.
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Your the best kirk. I loved the "we haven't got all day". Funny stuff. Thanks for all the videos.
Good afternoon David, thank you, my friend. peace, love, and harmony to all Sound Plastering tips for the DIY’er, apprentice plasterer or the Plastering experts
hey im rebuilding a old camper and the joints are stapled with like 1 inch crown staples guessing any recommendation on a cheap gun to do this without breaking the bank even a good used one. thanks
What kind of staple gun is that
Staples take 1/10th time to install than furring nails….time is moneyUse self furred wire…..I dont see any stucco contractors using furring nails….maybe on small patch, thats it