repair a large plaster ceiling, ceiling failing remove re-plaster
Plaster ceiling failing remove it before it falls apply new interior plaster.
FYI, folks, don’t wait until it falls, as it might do some severe damage to someone.
Removing a complete loose plaster ceiling reinforce with rib lath then repair with joint compounds
interior ceiling separating failures.
We were called in to remove part of this failing plaster or buckling plaster ceiling as gravity had its way with it. We got more than we bargained for on this repair.
We didn’t plan on removing the entire ceiling. However, when it got next to the light, we had no choice but to remove that fixture, blam, the whole roof fell as it was supported by just the light fixture. Yes, it fell on us.
Someone down the line did an incredibly foolish fix or repair.
They applied a bonding agent and another coat of plaster to stop the falling plaster.
It had the opposite effect because of this thing called “gravity and vibrations.
This made 2 inches of plaster dangerous.
The young babies in the living room when I first stopped by there were in danger and their parents.
This plaster did fall on us. However, we were strong men.
Folks, if you have a ceiling failing or separating, do your family and yourself a kindness, tear it off and apply either sheetrock or plaster it as we stapled our new metal lath into the ceiling joist, no matter if someone in the attic is doing jumping jacks it cant, fail or collapse.
As it was, the fella who simply added more weight to a separating plaster ceiling could have committed a foolish thing had this fallen on their babies or themselves.
I point this out as there are correct repairs and so-called foolish repairs that do more damage than good.
With this ceiling, we try and show and explain in less than 20 minutes what it took the three of us eight solid hours to accomplish by removing and applying a new interior plaster ceiling.
Keep in mind plastering ceiling is just like plastering walls, except your plastering overhead. That’s why it’s called Mastering Plastering.
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well presented and thorough presentation. Well worth the watch and very helpful.
Hello Micky Geomagician, thanks brother,
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Kirk,
Just left the army and aside of my fulltime job my wife and I have been buying multi family's. On the east coast we have horse hair plaster. Do you have videos on how to sure them up and finish them? Of is that uncommon on west coast? Either way thank you for the videos it's been a great help
Morning Arasimo, we don't use horsehair any more, now they have fiberglass fibers in the materials.
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Very nice you job.I'm a handyman and a take some tips don't get mad with me bless you
Hello Christian Calderon, thank you, this is the reason we upload our projects so you folks can give it a go, the right way.
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Hey Kirk, I just bought a 90 year old house on the east coast. I have holes with exposed lathe in the walls & ceiling. It seems easier to screw sheetrock into the lathe, patch the edges and skim coat. Am I missing something ? What is the disadvantage to that ?
Evening Peter Cairney, if this work and you can find the timber lath with the screws and understand how to apply a finish over the screw heads this can work, i
I have done this befor. The project we did here was completely failing, separating in large sections.
This project was beyond screw repairs.
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Hey Kurk, what type of mud do you use for the base layer agains the lathe ? A neighbor told me to mix plaster of Paris with the Green Joint compound. I was thinking of using Structo-Lite.
Hi Peter Cairney, Structo-lite is a great base coat.
Plaster of paris sets too fast, it's o.k. for casts, molds sculptures and such, however I would not use this product for a basecoat on a wall or ceiling.
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Many thanks for these videos from an absolute amateur. You are a talented plasterer but also a talented teacher.
Hello Not2toes, thank you, it just takes practice and a love of what you do,
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@Kirk & Jason Giordano's DIY plastering and stucco network Thanks for the vid 🙂 this helped me allot 🙂 Im deciding between plastering a celling rhino or putting in vanished wooden strips on the rhino boards,this seems to look way nicer but I wonder about the price and since I haven't done plastering I wonder if il mess it up or do it well , im a perfectionist so any bumps… well then it will bother me , question ? does this stuff crack ? I mean by itself due to heat or cold ? it can get very cold here like 11 degrees Celsius and can get hot, even go up to 42 degrees Celsius , just afraid of doing an awesome job and then have it crack on me 🙁
HI Angry Paintballer, plaster usually does not crack because of the heat or the cold,
vibrations is what causes cracks in both interior and exterior plaster.
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Kirk, Here in Portland, OR old plastered walls had texture. My '27 bungalow is flat & smooth in the kitchen, but little bumps like sand or pebbles (really small pebbles) everywhere else. Like a sanded stucco look. How do I replicate this textured look using Westpac's fast-set? Your videos are fantastic. You've helped me through various repairs around my house and I am forever grateful. Thanks! Matt, Portland, OR
Evening Matt Delay, easy question, place a handful or more of sand in you mix, look at the wall is question, if is a very light or a fine sand use silica, if it's heavy use plaster or oly sand.
I have used every kind of san know to man if efforts to match certain patterns,
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One last question, Kirk. Can the plaster you use be tinted? How cool would that be, no need to paint? Let me know what you think. Thanks, Kirk — Matt in Portland
Morning Matt, I Have done this but only with the finished product,however it rarely comes out the perfect color, If you add it to the base coat it's wasting time as depending on coats necessary it will appear goofy in appearance or extremely varied in color,
We have tried this with both the exterior stucco base coat (when using white cement) as well as the base coats for interior plaster.
I suggest you only add color to diamond or imperial veneer finishes, these do come out o.k.
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mud going off to quick?. why do u apply it randomly on second coat?…
Hi trinity, I had no issues with the mud.
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You need to work on your instructional skills. You make it look too easy, tempting us amateurs to ask "How hard can it be?"
Do you have any experience with really old style plastering? I have a ceiling that I think is clay plaster over reed lath. Any idea of where to look for help?
Thanks.
Hi Jim Fortune, I would stick to this easy repair materials, real Lime, or any other forms of gypsum are complicated.
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you should put a fan on the window blowing the dust out…it don't kill all the dust, but it help…just a FYI…
Hello Tom Lee, excellent advice and the old mask in this video has been upgraded these days also.
Cheers,
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Evening Pong Ho Lee, excellent advice, or wear my expensive quality dust mask.
Inhaling dust like this kicks my ass for up to a week if I'm not careful. You too much be a tradesman?
Thanks for the tip and have a great evening.
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Hello Albert, for small patches like this, nothing beats Westpac fast sets, you can buy 20, 40,60, 90 minute mud and so on.
Plus it's sold at both home depot and Lowes and all the professional Plastering yards.
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No worries albert.
have fun.
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@Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips Hey guys It is not branded westpac on the east coast but just ask for 20 minute mud. The stuff from lowes smells like shit (literally) so id recommend going to home depot if your on the east coast. Thanks kirk. You are the man!
Evening Mutiny dude, you seam like a rebel, I like that in a person.
I usually buy from our plaster material yard myself.
Thanks for the tips, i’m sure folks will listen no one want to work with mud that smells like shit.
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Hi Kirk. Love your videos. I m just wandering would of been
N easier if you put up a blue board and put veneer plaster. Would of save you mixing 20 bags of plaster. I got twice as big ceiling done with 3 bags of veneer plaster over a blue board. Didn't require bonding adhesive either. And only had two lathers to work on. Of course it's great to have stage set up. Kind regards Armen
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Hi Paddy daddy, I think the blue board would be easier, I just don't hang boards especially onto ceilings, Im no spring chicken.
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ur so right about the dust…i just learned this recently……now that my entire house and nasal passages are covered with the stuff..
Morning Flooently, no doubt, the dust is the absolute worst,
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top notch job!
@mach smith Hello Mach, thank you, Kirk Giordano
Would the California one coat product work for the scratch coat? Or would how about mixing in some plaster sand with the smooth set for the scratch coat? Does the sand make it stronger? I like your lessons, It's like cooking shows for "real men" Thanks for all the great work.
@talon0863 Hi Talon, I just googled the (California one coat product) it sounds exactly like the Westpac Plastering product I am using in the video, so I would have to say yes. FYI, you can do both coats the same day with this material, your not limited to just a scratch coat.Sand makes it stronger but you will lose the ability for it to adhere well and not be able to steel trowel real smooth, it's not worth the trade off.
Don't add sand.
Best wishes.
Kirk Giordano
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Hi Kirk
Pete here (again)
Over here in the uk we have been stopped from using grinders to remove old/cracked plaster. We now use sonic cutters . Don't know if you have used them yet but they are great . There is very little dust and they cut very fast.
Any way another great video cheers.
@MrDjpete1 Hi Mr. Djpete, grinders do make a huge mess, I have used a Mulit-Max dremel for excellent results myself.Kirk & Jason Giordano DIY plastering tips
Kirk, I'm repairing a hole in the ceiling. The ceiling sheetrock will be screwed into the joists where the hole was. Its about 6' x 5'. How essential is using a plaster bonder on the sheetrock before adding the plaster? I'm using WestPac All purpose premixed joint compound. Also, it seems you just blend into the existing paint with the plaster…did you use plaster bonder on the existing paint?
@Slap Stick Hi Slap Stick, for me it's imperative, I am responsible for everything we do.
Unfortunately most guys don't use a bonding agent, the way I view it is a patch of mine fails and falls, I could be liable for serious consequences, this thought makes applying a bonding agent necessary for my piece of mind. Besides, a call back for more of my services beats a call back to fix any faulty issue I may have created.
Best wishes,
Kirk Giordano
@Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips Okay thanks, and do you recommend putting some on the existing paint which borders the hole?
Hi Slap stick I don't as a rule unless I am feathering in that area, but if you get any excess on this area it's no big deal as the bonding agent covers easily with paint.
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Loved ya video Bud 🙂 .. thanks
@TheDickoDude Hello, dicodude, cool beans daddio
thanks what it's about. thanks
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Why O Why did'nt you take all the plaster off, overboard ,scrim the joints and then skim….??
@roblex63 Howdy Roblex dude, excellent question, it wasn't necessary.
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Thank you Kirk for the wonderful video series on plastering. You're a natural on screen talent, with talent! You're work reminds me of an old school tile installer I worked with many years ago who installed everything on lath and mud. Americas great tradition of highly skilled and hand crafted workmanship is kept alive by tradesmen like yourself. God bless you and yours.
@David Rogers Mr. Rogers, with that bone, you are my newest and bestest pal, thank you.
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I would have squared up the opening and used drywall. Much easier than all that mixing, wire etc.
Hi Smeller7, cool beans and thank for the tip,
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Smeller7 Some customers only want plaster only.
Excellent video. Good information.
Hi Mark Morgan, thank you ,
Cheers,
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Good job
Hello Dayvid Grebo, thanks bro,
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Hi, Kirk and Son, will the cold joints (new material joining existing one) be visible after the work is done. In other words, will you be able to see lines like in the video? If no, then how do you hide it? Also, do you recommend sanding for more smothness if any? BTW your video taught me that only the bad part comes out and good part stays in. That is sweet to know because why would you want to mess with good plaster if not needed (won't make sense)? Thank you for the education. Monterey.
Evening Montery12 dude, excellent question, No the joints won't show if feathered in properly.
A color coat cementitious finish used for exterior finishes would if applied in this same fashion.
To try and remove plaster that is well adhered would be real tough so we dont.
Most plaster with this wood lath will last for hundreds of years if folks are not walking above it or the home moving, as this vibration is what causes separating.
And yes this product is not a veeneer plaster, so it can be sanded.
Best wishes,
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+Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips Thank you for taking the time to answer, Kirk. On "joints won't show if feathered in properly," I'll look it up what you mean; unless you have a reference handy to provide me on how to do this technique properly. Thanks again. Monterey.
Howdy Montery dude "joints won't show if feathered in properly," means the same as blended in properly, just in plaster language.
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Thank you, Kirk, for answering. Best wishes and Happy Thanksgiving. Monterey.
Morning Montery12, thank you,
Cheers!
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I dont know if I missed it but I would of hung board over the old stuff. Ceiling buttons to secure the oid stuff first but I am the last guy to tell you what to do
Hi Thomas Gontarz, that's another way to correct.
But now the weight of three different gypsum based substrates would be struggling with gravity.
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The first thing that came to mind was to re secure it with ceiling buttons too. But I cannot find them anywhere. Did a job last year and had about a dozen in the shop from years ago but needed a lot more. I couldn't find them anywhere.
Howdy Tom, I used 1 1/4 crown staple directly in the studs, this ceiling repair ain't coming down town.
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Nice job
Howdy Mate, thank you
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Did you tape the joints? I missed that part.
Hello leonard smith, no, there are no joints with plastering, there are however with sheetrock and or drywall,
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Skilled layering and float out of those layers. A lot of respect on that. Thankfully here in the Southeast I don't run across alot of the traditional plaster jobs, and what few I have, someone screwed them up by spraying asbestos contaminated popcorn texturing on then leaving the home owner with two options, overlay with sheet rock if possible or call an abatement company in to rip it apart and then for me to come in to redo. Since most of my companies work deals with removel of popcorn and "acoustic" ceiling textures and refinish work……and everyone up until recently had at one point had their ceilings remodeled with the mess or their homes were done originally by the build contractor for cost savings and time….anyway, newer homes that came with it and have minimal paint spraying if any the textures come right off with either a little moisture or scraping and then a little moisture, but if it was done over a painted or primed surface and then painted later for a cleaner look it's hard as a rock and will not let go of the surface usually so we check securement and then have to skim out the ceilings with 45 to 90 minute mix with as little lines as possible, and then go back with a smooth coat of ready mixed bucket mud with a pinch of water mixed in. Then follow up with using a porter cable giraffe sander, check with lights for blemished spots, and then start finish work with the primers and paint. After doing that a few times doing a fresh sheet rock install and finish job seems easy and leaves you with appreciation for the guys who do plaster work
Hello Rob Pearson, thank you, you seam a expert in sheetrock?
Both require lot of real work and an even greater amount of time in.
I just watched a sheet-rocker install the boards with his lifter, and had all the proper mud tools including the bazookas and stilts, was a pleasure to watch as he was the real deal, and made it look simpler than it actually is,
Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
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Thank you and Merry Christmas and best wishes to you and the family
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My question is when you take down the plaster why not just put drywall up instead of plaster.
Hi Josh Cole good question, the answer is I do what is asked of me usually by the home owners,
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+Josh Cole proper plaster is the mercedez benz of ceilings ..sound proof warm…easily repairable..drywall is the ford escort. proper lath and plaster with the mesh is possibly the best quality ceiling you can get.
Howdy Bobsy, can I get an amen?
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amen
if my house has plaster popcorn ceiling(can't scrape) I can put a bonding agent on the popcorn and then plaster it smooth, correct? love the channel! thanks!
Evening IWBVS, yes you ca, however, your new finish is only as strong as the popcorn ceiling texture.
Make certain that texture is soilid if so, bonding agent, then skim right over,
best wishes,
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Hey Kirk, love the vids..just curious as to how much you charged for that job and how long did it take? Regards Jack..
evening jstincone516, thank you and sorry, the only thing I don't discuss are my cost as I'm no yardstick for measurement in comparable cost as all job repairs are quite different.
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Amazing craftsmanship.
+Abby Babby, thank you, you are on fire with that comment,
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Where's your safety glasses?
+Mike Formichelli, thanks for the concern, sometimes, I don't wear them.
However, do as I say and not as I do, and wear them, always, even when you're driving or walking down the street,
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No worries… Just kidding… How's Lou?
Howdy Mike Formichelli, Big Luuu, he's groovy, he worked his ace off today, and enjoyed his beer a bit better for it.
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Of all the home construction I've done and seen, over the past 40 some years …… I've never, ever – seen how plaster is applied to ceilings, till now! Thanks for your video! It was well presented, and understandable! 🙂
Morning Carsten Hahn, thank you,
I take it you have plaster on the inside of your home and are ready to at least do some patchwork, hopefully it's not necessary, but the majority of folks who stumble on this site, need to repair their number 1 investment and pleasure their home,
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for
Nope – just never seen it done before.
Carsten Hahn – in 40 years you have never been on a blue board job that's hard to believe
That’s not how we do it in England
Kirk: you still have your first set of shoulders!!! If yes, what is your trick to it.
Howdy gerard gaffrey, interesting question, I was tout if you really believe you are continuously strengthening your muscles they will last forever, as of two years ago, I was brainwashed by many incompetent doctors about all my health issues, my brain believed these idiots and tricked my body into breaking down physically, I had to have a client give me a copy of John Sarnos book "mind/Body connection" to snap me out of the bullshit belief I foolishly allowed the doctors to place in my brain and am now back to normal.
Complicated but true.
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correct way is ripping down lath, put up new sheetrock with screw
Howdy seadooman o, noooowww I know, thanks for the tip,
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Lath always has nails which over time will come loose and crack plaster
I disagree, lath can last centuries if no movement is present, however, movement or vibrations are as normal as sunshine and rain.
FYI, I have no objections to anyone installing sheetrock as I have installed thousands of sheets myself.
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thats what I want in my house is sunshine to hit walls and crack , I will take sheetrock any day/ if a sheetrock wall cracks your house is falling down
Howdy seadooman, thats called mother nature at her finest,
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One thing I haven't found a clear answer, and maybe somebody will see this and know, is does the lathe have to be very clean before plastering? I've seen people clean the lathe extensively on videos, but sometimes it looks like it isn't really clean.
Howdy John Yorks, I have seen this as it's my site and do know the answer to this excellent question,
Nothing but nothing adgers to dust.
After we removed the plaster, dust was still left naturally, we washed it down best we could, then cleaned the keys for the new stucco to mushroom above these cool wood lath keys.
We also applied a bonding agent which not only secures the new plaster to the wood but can and will remove any lingering dust as by habit dust seems to cling to a wall, like a sock in a dryer.
best wishes my friend,
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ei Kirk no laws for safety work in your country? is legal working without protection?
for your security use a regular scaffolding 😉
you do not know what you find down there, what happens falls a big shot from roof? on your eyes!
helmet and eyes protection.
those axes, are dangerous and risky to move on them.
You have family and your son works with you, security and safety when working is important.
think about it
Security comes first.
Evening Gikkio dude, thanks for the tip,
However, google A frame scaffolding, I believe you will find it's the safest scaffolding sold in the United states,
In fact it was on the C35 contractors test I took 28 years ago and on the California state license test that my son Jason took about 8 years ago.
have been using it far longer than I can remember, when it ever lets me down, I will retire, or sit in a hospital room, whining.
Cheers my fellow plasterer from Italy.
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@Giordano's plastering & stucco repair videos like your style man so God bless you and your family
take longer strokes when coating
Good Evening Reidy, thanks for the tip, not certain how I've been plastering all these years without this valuable info,
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Great response. Took a good minute for me to stop laughing! LOL
Loll take more strokes If he does his arm is going to fall off, im not sure you were watching the videoAnd like ol' kirk always says Work smarter not harder
Greeting from the UK Captain Kirk, long time no speak etc, you guys sure have so many different materials from what we use here in limeyland.
I noticed the date for this clip is 2013, so now in october 2016 are you still in the trade or are you now turning burgers due to the downturn in the US economy?
Just joshing with you, as I know a man of your calibre will always get work. Luckily for me I have enough contacts to keep me going but things are getting a bit tight as people tighten their purse strings.
Work always gets a bit thin on the ground around this time of year also I don't have a massive workforce to keep employed like you do, I only have me.
The expanding metal lath we have is a lot thinner than those sheets you were putting up. I actually prefer to use wooden lath but obviously it's a lot more time consuming putting it up unless you can knock up some full sheets of lath first but very often on the conservation jobs I work on you have to use a similar material to what would have originally been there
as stated by law, but instead of the iron nails that the craftsmen of old would have used I use stainless steel screws or nails. For strength purposes it's better doing what you did with the metal over the old lath especially if people are going
to be jumping up and down on the floor above.
All the best to you and your gang and may your trowelling arm never fail.
Evening Peter,
it is sometimes feast or famine for us over here too,
I have many contractors whom I have worked for for years who like my style so at this time I can't keep up,
hopefully it stays this way until past christmas.
cheers, my plastering friend.
kirk giordano
Recently Kirk i just cannot be bothered and want to spend more time developing my
art like carving and cartooning. One year I earned more money than I had ever earned,
EVER from working long hours and week-ends and as a result had a massive tax bill to pay.
I didn't have the money because I hadn't put any aside ( something my wife does now) and
had to take out a big loan. As a result I'm now working as few hours as I can, 5 hours a day
or less and life is great, i get enough money to pay the bills and only take on lime plaster
jobs and nothing that i don't want to have. happy Christmas Capt Kirk to you and your kin.xx
Howdy Peter, one things for certain death and taxes,
But taxes do pay for needed things such as bridges and schools.
Chers,
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……and parking tickets. i totally agree with you about the taxes and we should all
pay our fair share but what astounds me is the way that these huge corporate
entities get away with what they do, just like all of us they must pay what is due and they have big accounting firms that help them to evade their responsibilities and it makes me sick.
Recently we applied for a bank loan and even though i have no credit card debt, we own our own
house, I have rarely been out of work and don't claim any benefits we were refused the loan due to
the fact that I only owed about £20,000 in total, and because we didn't owe hundreds of thousands.
I think it's time I tried a new career and become a coke dealer or bank robber.
I would definately make a lot of money with quite low risks and both these careers are growth
industries, so do you fancy a transatlantic partnership? It pays a lot more than plastering
thats a fact and if you get caught you go to a nice cushy jail cell with a roof over ones head
and 3 meals a day plus the time to read and write books about the plasterers art.
Great job! You're the real deal.
Good Evening Jeff, thank you Best wishes,FYI, all of us here at the giordano plastering channel wish to thank all our subscriber and those of you who accidentally stumble on our channel a happy and prosperous new year kirk giordano plastering
Great video Kirk, i got a house which had rafters in the ceiling and we pulled them out and replaced it with plasterboards screwed into joists. After skimming the boards with plaster we noticed a few months later we noticed hair line cracks running across the joints 🙁 Any advise? Was told this might happen due to vibrations and movements from upper floors when there is people walking around. Unfortunately your process is very labour intensive and could find no one that has the skills you have or the ones that do restoration are very expensive!! Other option is wait until your back in UK visiting your in laws in Liverpool hahah! Take care Syed from Leeds
Howdy Syed, I agree with the fallas who said movement and vibrations can and will cause this.
We'll be back next year to help fix, but you will need plenty pints of the good stuff,
FYI, my personal opinion is at this stage the project is complete, you can caulk and paint, bhut more than likely these hairline cracks will continue, they may be unsightly but should not be a problem structurally.
Cheers
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Got to be the coolest plaster man on earth lol
Howdy Kenneth Dude , thank you, I like your style as you my friend certainly have a wonderful way with words
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Kirk I have a question why are you putting 20min why didn't you just put dry wall then put 20 min wouldn't that have saved you time?
Good afternoon Master Dude, I just do as I'm told, plus this sytem is literally 10 times as srong.
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I personaly would of took all the crappy wood off and stuck dry wall up made a better job and not had any worries of cracking in the future
Howdy Steven me fellow plasterer from the UK, no worries, brother
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steven collings – Dude they called a plasterer not a drywall guy so you give them what they want and that's plaster.But I hear you logic
Good evening Myron Dude, exzackary, I'm going to have to remember that line.
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Drywall doesn't compare to real plastered walls in classic older homes.
Kirk your a hard working man. Great job. I love seeing a real craftsman at keeping an old house true to form by making an authentic repair instead of just using drywall because it is easier and cheaper.
Good evening Bluebird dude, exzackory
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Few things more satisfying than doing plaster repair all day, then relaxing while watching someone else labor.
Good evening Vic dude, I prefer doing the work instead of just watching anyday of the year.
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Hey Kirk just curious how many coats of 20 did you put on the ceiling. That old plaster had to be at least 1 " thick.
Good evening Jim 2 or 3 at least,
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Great job , I have a question, do you get a plaster ready to put on or do you mix??
Howdy Beck dude, I purchase bags of dry plaster and mix with water on the job, usually in 5-gallon buckets.
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Love seeing Lath and plaster kept instead of the quickest way-Good job,And i think people forget that different countries use different Materials and some methods to other countries,here they use plasterboard and only set the joints and sand,in UK They skim the whole lot.I am looking at getting back to the trade again but in a heritage situation working on only older properties Where lath and plaster and solid walls done with Lime plaster,too many people destroy their old properties with modern materials instead of the original.Great videos guys!
Howdy William dude, thank you, I agree.
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They are starting to get into the old style lime plasters in heritage restoration projects in the US. I am a gypsum base coat and finish lime with gauging plaster-guy, myself
im sure this was the reason dry wall was invented
Howdy Vinnie, just another one of the reasons.
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I’m a drywall taper but could i use a 18” drywall knife and pan instead of hawk and trowel?
Howdy Kyle, absolutely, in fact you can use what ever size you comfrotable with.
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Hi Kirk. Great job! Question….can you use pre-mixed mud, All Purpose or Topping for this application? I know it would be a one coat per day thing, but would want to avoid all the mixing because I work alone. Thank you.
Good evening Kevin, you my friend, have the hardest job in the plastering industry, I tried this but could not do it, "work alone," as it takes too much time.
In answer to your question, absolutely, you can use taping mud. I'd advise getting some help with mixing the dry powdered plastering compounds, as once you do this, you will never again think of applying premade tapping muds.
With your spreading ability/talent to apply taping muds, you would triple the ease and time necessary to complete any project.
Just keep in mid, 20 minte drywall compopounds means if you use a clean bucket with a clean drill paddel, your plaster mud will set is 20 minuts,
The same applies to 40,60,90 or even the houre and a half drywall compound.
Try it, then let me know what you think, as you already pocess the hard part, the skill of applying, now combine the drag of addiung water to a dry mix, and presto, you will svave so much time in sveeral years to take a five month vacation, with the saved time.
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Thank you, Kirk. You rock dude, and have learned much from your channel. It has changed the way I do repairs and have learned many old world textures. Thank you for sharing your talents and wisdom. Cheers!!
Evening Kevin, no worries, as you are way past the next level of plastering.
It's unfortunate that most of the brilliant drywall tapers have not realized their talents with mud could be enhanced with half the efforts with a superior product such as the drywall compounds, if so most would earn more dough, for less than half the time, and the best part of all, "no sanding."
Sanding alone with covering all the rooms and clean up, takes more time than mixing these compounds.
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Hey Kirk, great video. Do you worry much about vermiculite insulation in the attic (most of it is contaminated with a small amount of asbestos)? Or do you just wear a dust mask and carry on?
Hi Kirk, can I put Fast Set or Easy Sand over Structolite?
Thanks
Good evening Jose, yes, I'd recommend a bonding agent on the structo-lite to help it bond well.
When applying gypsum plaster to a veneer plaster base coat, I apply the bonding agent first, myself.
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Good evening Justin, thank you, my friend.
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10000 job
Good evening, Lord Dude, exzackary
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Have you tried using a carbide scoring knife?
Howdy Karl, no, in fact, I have not heard of that tool being available, I will have to look it up.
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@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. Carbide scoring knives are an absolute in my toolbox. Sharpen with your 4" grinder or a diamond stone.
Howdy guys thank for the tip.
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Use a multi tool
Howdy Patrick, sometimes we do, other times we use whats at hand.
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Couple sheets of plywood laid across your planks would make it a helluva lot easier and safer to move around that scaffolding….. especially doing a ceiling where you’re looking up most of the time…. just a suggestion
Howdy Nick, no doubt my friend.
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Agreed.
what a job you have done there minted
Happy New Year Stevie, thank you.
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This was the first video I ever saw for this channel, it is a classic!
Happy New Years Cipher, Man, I sho-nuff like your style.
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Use an oscillating blade less dust
Happy New Year, Ray, not really. They do make tools with Vacumes to suck up the excess dust, wished I had one when this was done.
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Happy New Years John, the stories out, dang.
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Why wouldn’t you just spray the welder bond on ?
Happy New Year Valdemar, I could have but preferred to roll or paint it on to help remove any dust that might want to cling on the wood like a sock in a dryer.
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Hi are You master ! What is the name of the metal you put on the roof?
Happy New Years Jose, Rib Lath, it's strong stuff.
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Damn Kirk a all that out of buckets.. wheres the stand and mud boards
Happy New Years Joseph, often, I will just take the mud from the bucket.
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Kirk, what product did you use on this ceiling repair? Is that just dry plaster bought in bags and just add water? Thanks
I have a 5’x6’ ceiling to patch, and if I put strucco lite as my base coat, then 20 min. Mud for my finish, will it crack around the edges if I don’t tape it ?
Howdy Paul, if it were me, I'd use a 20-minute drywall compound for the base, middle if needed, and the finish coat.
I have not had cracking issues with this type of patching, now exterior stucco that's a different thing with cracking.
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Why wouldn’t you just hang five eights blueboard and skim coated with an 8th inch of plaster
Howdy Joe, I was there for a small patch, I did realize the ceiling light was holding the complete ceiling on.
BLue board also could have been used along with many other materials. Many ways to skin a cat.
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I've heard good things about the mesh system but given that pretty much all the plaster had been removed from the lath, why didn't the owner want to have new plaster board put up instead. It would have been stronger in the long run and provided more sound insulation. Cost?
I am an appliance repair guy and the only Bosch dishwasher I ever worked on was a nightmare being the first time working on one.
@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. yeah stay away from them and spend my time making money on something else. Lol.
Hey Kirk you know what you doing you good at you good at Plaster and I liked it I learned a lot from you but you referring to studs in the ceiling called ceiling joists
Mesh is for concrete, Lathe is for stucco
You should be waring glass to protect your eyes!
I need help to recreate the textured look of plaster on several rooms in a 1930s Spanish style home in San Bernardino, Ca (inland empire). Any recommendations?
P.S. I've removed the existing plaster back to the lathes.
Struto-lite as a basecoat and either Diamond or Imperial veer as the finish coat.
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I was only kidding Kirk when I said mash not lath we call things different on the East Coast I never thought you get back to me thanks for getting back to me.
Is that taping mud you would have been better with a backing and a finish
Kirk you crack me up! Found a roll of 100dollar bills, I found bottles of whiskey in the wall of an old home in Boulder Creek , early 1900s home .
Thanks Kirk , from Big Belly Santa Cruz
Have cieling like this but Plaster only 1/4 inch thick kind thin lots cracks. I told home owners I would need 200 plaster fasteners and screws. I say pull it down and Drywall will last maybe life time but leaving plaster up may only Get about 5-7 Year's.
You said Shit ! Ha love it
Busted stud or joist lol
Your talking about the 2bys that run across the cieling to afix the rib-lath or dry wall. What's the problem? understood.
@Jose Canisales atta boy, the sheetrock of lath has to be attached to a stud or rafter
Kirk what about the asbestos?
Excuse me, what is the name of the glue you use that looks like pink
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Sara Darling thank you, much love back to you.
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@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. thank you,God bless you and your family too.(L)
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I have never seen the mesh you used in the big box stores. Where do you get yours.
never heard you swear till now haha great video
Great job. In UK it looks like we use different compounds. Over here we use hardwall/bonding to build up a base coat and then multifinish for topcoat. Is it similar over your side of the pond?