Shower ceiling with Veneer plaster base and finish coat.
How to apply Veneer Plasters, Diamond Veneer plaster system.
Sheetrock or drywall finishing Lime plaster base coat and lime finish coat.
Interior lime finishing walls or ceilings
As this bathroom was small, here is a much better video where we have lots more room for all to get a better idea of Lime plastering.https://youtu.be/KldxODNprP0/
With lime plastering, you apply a bonding agent to the sheetrock, then use a Lime base coat and finish coat over your basecoat. It’s done on the same day.
Plus, LIme plaster is anti-bacterial and mold-proof, along with moisture resistance.
FYI, most lime plasters say on the bags, “veneer lime plaster.”
So why is it called Veneer lime plaster?
The word “veneer” has nothing to do with a mineral but more a process or application.
It simply means a thin application of lime plaster being applied.
First, apply a bonding agent over the sheetrock. Next is a base coat of lime plaster; about 15 minutes to apply and 15 minutes to set, then the lime finish application, again about 15 minutes to use and 15 minutes to set.
As many email me to say! Hey, kirk, I can’t find the “Diamond Lime Plaster,”
Google, “Plastering yards near me,” as lime plasters are not sold at HD or lowes. The internets says they are selling it. However, when you get there, they don’t,
Could they say they sell it so that when you get there and find that don’t you purchase another product?
Diamond is simply a name like “Imperial” both of these lime plasters are made by USG.
If you can’t find Diamond, so what. Buy another lime plaster.
USG’s calls their Lime plaster “Diamond,” one has to admit it’s a clever name for lime plaster,
Why? Diamonds are minerals composed of pure carbon. It is the hardest naturally occurring substance known. Damned clever lime naming if you asked me?
Google, “Lime Plaster sold in my area,”
FYI, it can be named “XYZ or Blaw, Blaw, Blaw, Lime Plaster,” as long as it’s a “Lime Plaster,” you’re good.
This video was taken for our loyal subscribers; if you’ve ever pondered the question, “can you just apply one coat of either lime base or lime finish to a wall? “you’ve come to the right place; click below to see how.https://youtu.be/2pPeOCb0bIs/
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Two bags of two different products ? One of each coat?
That water heater job is all done not a bad idea , would it preserve the sheet rock if say in 10 years it lets go again an leak? Best Peter
Hey Peter yes, if done properly it's a water resistant veneer plaster system.
If you can apply taping mud you can apply veneer plasters.
Hell, I find them much easier than applying taping mud.
Cheers!
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Thanks well I did not think of it an did not know , at the time .
@Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips great video and tips! i got only 12 years into taping and mudding, and a mere 3 to 4 years starting to play around with plaster finishes, and i can say that the "no sanding" aspect is HUGE! i think i may have to push for more base/veneer jobs in the future. you guys make it look easy! thanks!
Hey Drew dude it is easier, it's not a secret, however most folks don't know of this option as it requires attention.
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I've worked with plasters for years, much of it was lime based rather than gypsum based plaster. I've watched many of your videos. I've never commented before. Perhaps people watching your videos don't realize that you are telling them exactly what they need to know. Things that often can only be learned after years in the trade. Looking things up on a manufacturers website will prove to be exceedingly confusing, almost a waste of time. If you already understand plasters and plastering, the manufacturers website will be helpful for technical information, nothing more. You tell your viewers almost everything they need to know. They only need to add practice and lots of it.
You are doing a great service to the public at large. I hope they realize that and appreciate it. I also want to compliment you on your family. Your son, who is occasionally featured on the videos, is a "chip off the old block." You should be very proud of him. Put simply, you are a good plasterer, more importantly a good man and you sure as hell have a good family. My sincere compliments. Let me close with a question that occurs to me every time you say " this is Kirk Giordano." Is Giordano an Italian name? Being 100 % Italian-American myself, I would like to think so but if not my appreciation and compliments remain just as sincere. Thanks Kirk and Jason. You guys do a service to the general public, maybe more than they know. I just wanted you to know that I realize the value of your work and I am sure that there are more people like me, who though silently watching your videos, not commenting, realize the good that you are doing. Thanks Guys
No truer words have been spoken! I am also an avid watcher, and although I'm all the way from Wales, UK, I find Kirk and Jason's tips invaluable. There are so many tips and techniques which I use or cross reference to my own work. Thanks Giordanos!
Evening rsrandy, Thank you for those kind words, I have spent a lifetime learning what I know now, with my plastering work, any time i fail at any aspect of plastering I have to go back and fix at no cost work I do, weather or not the materials I used failed matters little. so a fella like me learns to repair properly, after more than 500 videos I am now learning what people want to hear and what they find useless as I have also looked for advice and found I waisted my time from someones explanation also.
I am a craftsman first and I'm now learning to be a so called "narrator."
As far as the last name "Giordano" my mom was brought here from France towards the end of the war in 1945, she was beautiful, wonderful and also naive, she first had 4 kids by one man.
Not a bad fellow, I might add.
However the next relationship was with my so called father proved to be an error in judgment he was obviously an asshole, my mother at this point still spoke little english and lived in extreme poverty, again was easy picking for a man who might fool her into believing he would be a righteous man, he wasn't. (perhaps he fooled himself into believing he was too)
I like the phrase of the man who raised me from when I was 2, who was a professional prizefighter and a meaner than a pissed off bull most of the time, but still a great man at heart, even when he said serious things such as "if he was on fire, I wouldn't piss on him to put him out.
That portuguez fella who went by the name of Kid Enos from his fight days was my real dad at heart.
As a boy I asked once why he fought so much his reply was they used to call me "clarence" his written name was Clarence Enos, things that make you go hmmmmm.
thus I received my mothers last name from her hometown in northern Italy. I was born in this country, though, so technically I am Italian and Irish.
best wishes,
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Evening Llyr Jones and rsrandy, you two are my newest and bestest pals with those back to back groovy comments.
best wishes,
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This is basically what i would refer to as 'skimming' (which we do extensively in the UK, with a multifinish or board finish pink plaster). I wonder why it's not common practice over with you? Just a thought. Great vid!
Hi Llyr Jones in the UK, this veneer plastering is common for plastering contractors.
It's not common for drywall, contractors, they prefer the taping mud systems.
Me I hate sanding, did that about 3 times, decided never to do that dusty crap again,
Best wishes in the UK, where some of the best plasterers are!
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Thanks Kirk, I am going to start a bathroom remodel and have no problem taping but I never knew I could skip it with the veneer. Will safe a ton of time.
Evening eagle2205, that's what I'm talking about!
Plus taping mud has the tendency for the paint to peel off with steam from the shower as the heat from steam brings taping mud back to mud, allowing the paint to peel easily.
This occurrence is not so with the veneer plaster system, as the heat from the steam does not affect the tough glasslike veneer finish.
There are many more benefits but just the fact that you can do both coats in a day without sanding should be reason enough to choose veneer plaster systems.
best wishes and "you can do it."
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You are so right about the peeling of the paint. I bought this house in 2000. The master bath was redone by the previous owner and the shower is peeling on the ceiling in the same places you were plastering in your video. They replaced the plaster with sheetrock and I am sure used a layer of compound. Well it peels. I will get to that bathroom after. The bathroom that I am doing has the 12 inch rockboard 1/2" thick with 1/2" plaster then veneer. Not one bit of peeling on a 50 year old bathroom plus the tile is stuck on like cement. I will use blue sheet rock with the pink primer then the two coats you mentioned. I used 1/2" sheetrock and 1/2 inch structolite for my kitchen with 90 minute compound over that and that was a lot of work. It cam out good though. I had this idea of maintaining the plaster integrity of the house since I like the feel of the solid walls. However for the bathrooms I will go with the 5/8 rock and then your method which will give me the 1 inch I wll need to meet the door jambs and windows. Love your site. it has help me a lot.
Evening Eagles dude, thank you,
there are so many methods and even more materials to skim sheetrock and I have done them all, this is the best and the easiest, you have about 45 minutes to apply the basecoat, fill your joints full, relax then when ready, it will darken then apply the finish coat, very easy especially if you can spread taping mud.
Plus, It's the longest lasting shower or bathroom finish I am aware of.
best wishes,
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Good vid lads an old plaster that I worked with in the past told me that you will never stop learning how to plaster because every plaster and crew you work with do things different and some ways are better than others just choose which ever ways suit you 16 years plastering now and I know that what he said was true.andy from Ireland
Hello Andy from Ireland,thank you,
seems like sound advice.
best wishes,
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You really need to employ me 🙂 I can render, skim anything to do with plastering if you want check my Facebook page out 'hometex plastering' plus I could to with a little holiday to America lol
Love the videos guys
Hi RAY Chronic, I agree, I need to hire someone to do all the plastering because it's some tiring stuff, and I'm no spring chicken.
best wishes.
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Greetings Kirk & Jason,
I have been doing some wall and ceiling repair and wall resurfacing work in a 1912 era dwelling' bedroom using USG Imperial Base Coat and USG Imperial Finish Coat. The base coat over the recently cleaned and water moistened lath, following in the next work session with the plaster finish coat. As you describe in this video, it is durable hard plaster finish when dried. In this video you remark that this is a good two plaster system for kitchens and bathrooms, my question: is there another type of plaster base and finish coat plaster which should/could be used for a living room, hallway, closet, bedroom,, or are the Imperial base and finish plasters suitable for general interior use as well?
Thank You for this informative video as it relates to the plaster work I have been doing this summer/fall at home experimenting with the two plasters trying to fill and repair the walls and ceilings and obtaining a dried finish which matches the original plaster look and feel. As you state a time consuming task when still figuring out the basics…Thank You for your informative and instructional; video series…
Good morning William M Popper, your welcome and yes, there are a few other veneer plasters, However my material yard Westside building material located in Oakland with material yards throughout the country sells just the Diamond and imperial veneer base coats as well as the finish coats.
I can't tell the difference when applying either, but it's a known fact that the imperial base coat is a bit stronger, therefore I generally use the imperial for the basecoat and diamond for the finish.
There is also red top, but I have never tried it, as again my material yard does not stock it and there's little need to, as USG, I believe is the maker of both diamond and imperial and more sought-after in my area.
I have no desire to look for a different product when both these veneers work excellent.
Best wishes,
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@Kirk & Jason Giordano's DIY plastering and stucco network Thank you for follow up answer, much appreciated. Hope that you are having a good week.
Why not use Green moisture board then skim on top of that witg Diamond Veneer. 1and a hours max.
From London, home of the Greatest plasterers. Lol
Nice job though, your good.
Ps i think the problem with the USA is the way they build.
We here in the UK we do timber frame, but where very much into skimming, hard wall interior plasters, floating walls, sand and cement, where you guys tape alot. I hear down in the northeast there really good. But i was in Cali couple of years ago and couldnt get any plaster work.
Youd make a fortune in London where a guy whos good and fast can make $500 a day. So what do you say Kirk?
Ready to come amongst us Brits?
Ps Your roofing over there aint all that either. Shingles? Please? Lol
Hi Jimjim Skimmer, sounds like I should be back in the UK,
the only time we go there is when visiting me wifes parent in manchester, then i working for free.
best wishes,
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Oh ok. So have you used our plasters. We use a product called Thistle Multi finish. What did you think? I used Diamond Veneer in New Jersey i liked it. Ps your a Master Spread, can tell. Love the vids.
Thanks once again my Friend,Million dollars worth of instruction and Advice! You Are the Man!! Happy holidays and a Merry Christmas to You and Family…
Afternoon Brent Horton, thank you, happy to share the knowledge.
best wishes and have a happy holiday season.
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What type of masking red tape over the marble did you use? and what would you use over wood? That pink primer would that go over outside white vinyl corner bead like chamfer style or radius bull nose in order for the base to stick and to that metal vent fan flange that wont pop?
Evening Jeff Perry, I used vinyl or poly tape, basically the same stuff.
It won't leave an adhesive residue when it gets wet.
Best wishes and have a great evening,
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I'm currently at jobsite where we are using some veneer plaster finishes. These finishes are tinted, smooth, not painted, and they look fantastic. There is nice variation in the color that looks like a faux painted finish but better IMO. Considering the cost of faux painted finish, it can't see how it wouldn't be cheaper to go with unpainted tinted veneer plaster. Plus you don't get all the sanding mess, and much shorter time to delivery.
BTW, the plasterer is Irish.
Hi MrLuigiFercotti, great tip, Cheers,
Kirk giordano
Also, since these are in a public space, they will get a matte sealer coat to resist stains and hand prints.
Did you use regular tapered edge Drywall?
Did you use regular tapered edge Drywall?
Evening roman renz, I didn't install the sheetrock, I just apply mud.
FYI, it just regular sheetrock and yes all sheetrock has tapered edges for the extra mud build up between them.
Best wishes.
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Kirk,
Thanks for all of your great techniques and tricks! I need some help.. My local USG supply house only stocks Structo-Lite and Diamond Veneer Finish I am renovating a house built in 1909, with all plaster walls. I have repaired and restored almost all of the plaster walls, except the kitchen, which is too far gone. I would like to put up some drywall and then plaster over it like you did in your video, however I do not have easy access to a Diamond or Imperial Basecoat. Can I add sand or another substrate to the Diamond Veneer Finish to make it like a basecoat, or should I use another product like 45-90 minute mud and then Diamond veneer plaster over that?
Hi Colin, If it were me I would use what's available as I often do, besides, Structo-lite is an excellent base coat while diamond over this base coat works just as good as the other basecoats in my opinion.
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I gave you the 80th like
@Sajid Rafique Wow, thank you, that now means your my newest and bestest pal, or were doing something right. Thanks for watching and have a fantastic evening.
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Thanks for lifting my spirit but indeed your work is very nice.
Kirk would you apply veneer to walls as well? Thank you for the great tips
@ron s Evening Ron, yes, usually in kitchens and bathrooms as it's great in moister areas. Best wishes,
Kirk Giordano
what is the pink finish on the surface you are applying to?
Hi Charles, it's the bonding agent so that the veneer plaster adheres.
Cheers,
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Bonding Agent!! I didn't watch enough of the video. Thanks for the great info.
@Charles Cabral No Worries Charles, there are many bonding agents available today, below are two from home depot.
As many folks call and tell me they can't find the pink , "plaster Weld,"
Sika and quikrete are also professional grade bonding agents.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SikaLatex-1-Gal-Concrete-Bonding-
Adhesive-and-Acrylic-Fortifier-187782/202521398,
and
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Quikrete-1-Gal-Concrete-Bonding-Adhesive-990201/100318465
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it's was a very cool experience watch a Master at work thank you kirk
@alberto melendez Morning Alberto, thank you, best wishes,
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The best thing is pay someone that knows what he is doing is not that easy
Howdy Mario Quintana, exactamundo.
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kirk…i love watching your videos and have learned tons. i work for a real estate investor. I have a question. Would this product be okay to use outside? if not what would you recommend. I have to patch 2 holes that are 12×12 outside on the ceiling of a patio. the ceiling has board on it and is covered with about 1/8th inch of plaster or stucco from what I can tell, only looks like one coat of something…any recommendations as to what to use for that finish…the finish is smooth like drywall mud…thanks
the board is imperial board/exterior drywall board
Howdy Mav dude, yes you can use veneers outside as long as it's protected from rain.
Best wishes,
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thanks Kirk!
yes the ceiling would be covered from the rain…would I be able to get a product like this from home Depot or Lowe's or do I need to go to a specialty store? thanks!
hey dude, you can buy this veneer plaster at westside building materials or any of the other plastering yards.
Any veneer plaster will also work.
Best wishes,
Kirk Giordano
I'm going to try this in my bathroom this summer
Evening Lokela Lane, of all the plastering tips we show applying veneer plasters are the easiest as you are going almost flat against the wall, so the wall acts as a guild.
I say go for it.
Best wishes,
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Thanks so much
you made it look so easy to do
Morning Lokela Lane, it's just practice mixed with a love of what you're doing.
The more you do something the better you naturally get and voila, you start to enjoy it as your now good at it.
best wishes,
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Hey Kirk, I know you've mentioned in other vids that in order to veneer plaster over sheetrock that you have to tape and mud the joints before hand…can I just use the self adhesive mesh tape or do I start off like I normally would using joint compound over the joints? But then that would lead to sanding and seems counter productive. Thanks for your time and videos. Merry Christmas.
Evening Domenic Larosa, as long as you tape your joints its o.k. to use what ever mud you have handy, as longs as the surface is clean.
Try and get the joint mud tight or perfect to avoid sanding.
Cheers!
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do you have a video of plastering over existing painted walls what do you need from start to finish and how many applications do you need in order to get that diamond finish I bought some Diamond veneer plaster from construction company and I'm told that it needs like 7 applications before getting to the finish I've been looking at your videos but I don't find anything with existing paint and I'm in finish I would appreciate if you can help me out I'm not understanding how it's done from start to finish
sylvia sanchez, hey dude, 7 coats is a lot of coats, that fella may see something I'm not aware of such as a heavy finish to go over, instead of so many base coats mix some structo-lite and apply a basecoat as thick as necessary to cover the heavy finish you obviously have to work with.
If it painted sheetrock apply a bonding agent as i did in this video, I used larson's plaster weld myself.
Best wishes and happy new year!
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Thank you for your response but I have another question or two on the 50 pound bag would I have to use it all up once mixing or can i put a led on 5 gal bucket on the existing painted walls.. I only have to use the bonding agent and then apply the Diamond veneer plaster and The second code would be the same veneer plaster I'm using to give it the finish look ..Thanks again I use the bonding first apply the first code give a hour and apply the second coat that gives it it finished look right thanks
Hey sanchez, once you add water to any product it must be used that day,.
Premixed taping mud is an exception it can be used, then a bit of water put in to keep the air off the mud then reused.
But again this is a premixed product.
All powered plasters whether gypsum based, limes and or cement plaster based once water is added should be used asop, as this action of combining water starts the initially set and continue to set in contact with carbon dioxide in the air.
Good luck, luck is actually the residue of being well prepared.
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Just out of interest do you use skim coat in the U.S? Keep up the good work lads.
Howdy Buckers0885, yes, we apply skim coats here, by a skim coat we refer to a coat that is neither a scratch or a brown but instead a skim coat which is roughly about 1/2 inch and applied over concrete, or cinderblock to clean it up, Just one coat and were done.
cheers,
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+Kirk & Jason Giordano's plastering & stucco tips just wondered how quick the skim coat sets on you in your warmer climate. I've been plastering since I was 16 and it's interesting to see how it's done in other countries.
Hello, I would say our coats of this particular veneer plaster sets in about 20 to 40 minutes depending on climate and or if a wall is sealed as in painted.
Cheers.
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Kirk…I'm not generally one who would criticize another plaster mason…But it makes for a much better job when you coat the taped joints ahead of running the full surface!….other than that…It's great of you to share your trade with others…not many would be willing to do that!…God Bless
Howdy BartSwinter, no worries me brother, the fiber mesh we used is yellow which dose not show up that well, but upon closer inspection you or anyone, can see it was used, thank you for the tip, your attention to detail is possible just another reason why you my fellow plastering friend are chosen as a professional plasterer to be relied on,
Best wishes,
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You Sir…are an honorable man!…We are renovating an historic hotel att..12 stories high….3 grand ballrooms…an unbelievable task!….having trouble finding experienced Plaster masons…forced to train eifs guys to learn veneer plastering…I wish you were there!
Hi Bart, thank you,
It's actually easier for an experienced sheetrock taper to apply the veneer base coat and finish coat than it is to apply taping mud.
As taping mud for the final coat takes as much if not more skill in troweling, veneers just have faster set times.
Best wishes,
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Kirk,
you make it look to easy!
Howdy Brad Smith, thank you, with practice most chores are,
Best wishes,
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Nice work man
Kirk, I have seen like 50 of your videos now and it's nice to see you do your thing! 🙂 But I have never seen a finished job, painted. I know this is "how to" videos but I kinda wanna se the result, why is that?
Evening, easy peasy lemon squeezy,
stucco takes 28 days to cure which means the PH has to drop to about 10 so the primer and paint wont ghost or blister,
besides, we don't paint our work,
Our color coats are maintenance free also, the two coat systems have to cure, we're usually long gone.
Cheers,
kirk giordano
first let me say, your videos are awesome. I have a question about lath and 20 gauge self furring stucco netting. I see you use both. I don't want to take up too much of your time so I will be as specif as possible as it regards to my application. I do tile work and have recently learned about "fat mudding" That is what we call it here. You may call it something different, it is using tar paper over bare studs then metal lath or chicken wire then Portland cement, sand and lime. floated on about a 1/2 in thick to get a nice and plumb, flat wall. I see some people using 20 gauge self furring stucco netting and others saying you have to use metal lath. Which is the right way to do it? Also if I am only tiling say 1/2 or 3/4 of the wall can I fat mud the whole thing and then come back with a diamond veneer to the remainder of the wall and add color to that instead of painting?
Evening Shane, easy peasy lemon squeasy,
20 gage wire is used for tile or for chicken coops, the 17 and 18 gage wire or stucco netting is for stucco, which is also called cement plaster.
In a shower with shear wall you can use the 20 gage stucco netting, where it's just studs the mesh netting is preferred as between the stud the stucco netting will allow much mud to fall between it.
As far as colored stucco in a shower, I don't do this anymore as all the finishes, weather, cementitious, limes, and acrylic's, fail, not will they, they all do, and need constant maintenance, I have better things to do with my time than keep an eye or shower walls, so inside the shower I recommend tile, outside the shower where there are drier conditions you can add color to the diamond or whatever venner you choose, good luck getting the exact color you are trying to create.
Cheers,
kirk giordano
I would work for u for free just to learn the REAL plaster trade
HOwdy Michele, careful what you ask for, if you can apply taping mud, chances are you can apply any of these veneer finishes.
Cheers,
kirk giordano
Hello Kurt.
Do I need to apply a bonding agent over 5/8 purple fire rated mold resistant drywall?
I am doing a 3 car garage with a veneer 2 coat interior veneer plaster.
Thank you
Ray.
Hi Rayram, I would as if give extra time for working the product.
But no you don't have to.
Cheers,
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Hi Kirk, Your videos are awesome. Thanks to you we were able to transform our ugly 80's fireplace with the products you showed us in your video…. we now have a beautiful diamond veneer plaster finish and rustic wood mantle.
We are getting ready to do the same thing but this time with a range hood. If I plaster weld some marine grade plywood, can I apply the imperial base/diamond finish directly to it? Also, how much time after applying the plaster weld do you have before you need to apply the base coast? Is it ok to wait 2 days? THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Evening Gary, often even with a bonding agent gypsum does not adhere to wood very well especially if the wood heats up as this will cause the wood to expand, which pops the gypsum off.
It best to plaster over drywall with a bonding agent.
Cheers
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Kirk. I have been taping Sheetrock for about 20 years now with J. Compound. I want to do this and Learn this technique but I'm somewhat overwhelmed with all the different applications: do you have a video that explains all of the different applications you do?
For example, you do stucco on exterior applications.
Then you do plastering inside for surfaces such as bathroom ceilings where a person would like a harder surface which I now realize is called veneer plastering.
Would you please in your response just indicate all of the different types of surfaces which an expert like yourself does?
1. Exterior. (what is done by a plaster man on exteriors? Just stucco or what you call "cement plaster"?
2. Interior: please indicate what products are used inside by an expert like yourself? What is the product called which is used inside and for what situations is each used?
You are such an expert that you are making our head spin. But for us who want to learn this, it is somewhat overwhelming because we do not know where to begin.
You are an excellent tradesmen and I would hire you in a minute because of one reason:
YOU LOVE WHAT YOU DO. And as a contractor myself, I know that if one does not love what he does, you shouldn't do it.
Howdy Spencer, thank you, it takes many years to learn to apply taping mud properly also, in fact I find applying taping mud to a room more difficult.
Applying the veneer system will be easier than applying taping mud, but only for a fella or a gal who has mastered the art of applying tapping mud.
This too takes years to understand how to with set times.
If you gave yourself some time to apply the veneers you will realize quickly the set times, it all take practice with being attentive, notice when it starts to darken, you between 10 to a half hour depend on the water to spray on it to bring it back to life, you have a strong edge as to be skilled in tapping mud applications.
Never have a fear, as if you make a mistake of it sets to fast, simply skim over and call this lesson 1.
The simple rendering veneers video below may help.
https://youtu.be/P-MYIWu6hLg cheers,
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I wish I knew everything you know.
Evening Spencer, careful what you wish for, I am a plastering nerd with no life except knowledge for stucco.
O.k. I do have a life, but I'm certain I can't do what your trained to do eather.
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Kirk, can I use this with a bonding agent on top of a wall?
The wall is lath and lime plaster with two coats of oil based paint and is mostly sound
Evening James, yes, as long as it's indoors.
Cheers,
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Question Kirk. why do you use a pool trowel in most or all your videos. isn't it easier to spread mud with a square trowel? especially in corners…
Howdy Miguel, I like the trowel I use, yes I lose a couple of minute in the corners but make up for this time with the trowel I prefer.
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hi kirk can you make a video using California one kote interior stucco that will be helpful for me thanks for sharing your knowledge
Good morning Johnny, ask and ye shall receive, the video you requested is at the bottom, the material Diamond or Imperial veneer plaster is almost identical to California One -coat, the only difference is California one coat developed by Merlex say's you go apply thicker.
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Great, if I can't find base I'll get structolite.
Good evening Al, that works too, but is more work to lay it on thin as structo-lite spreads sort of like glue, of course I can and have spread tile adhesive or glue on walls too, did so once by mistake.
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Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. Could i use joint compound as a base for Diamond finish ? I have left over joint compound around ,and of course being a budget aware contractor ,i would like to use it up first . Speaking of cost effective ,i am probably one of the lowest priced contractors in my area . i find good stuff either in dumpsters,trash day , buy close out items,or just but bulk. Thanks Kirk .
USG DIAMOND VENEER. That on top of blueboard. 2 hours job done. LONDON UK PLASTER. Ps all we do is plaster in the UK
I have a 16in pool trowel and only do stucco on my own jobs, along with every other trade……a 20in trowel is a beast to use all day, sure when you do indoor veneer or mud it seems like a vacation vs outside stucco, lol
Good Morning Kirk dude, I usually use an 18 for walls interior but for all other repairs, this 16 is the smallest I use for interior and all exterior.
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The only veneer I can get my hands on in my area is kal-kote base and finish.. the supplier said I need lime and mix it in 50% of base. But lime bag instructions say 50% of finish. Any ideas?
Howdy John, google plastering materials yards in your area and look for one that sells veneer finish coats.
Veneer finish coats artnt sold at most hardware stores.
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Do not mix lime with pre mixed veneer plasters. 20 yr + plasterer taught by a 40 yr+ plasterer who was taught by another 40 yr+ plasterer. A long time ago finish plaster was made by putting lime putty on a mortar board and mixing in a 1:5 of gauging plaster to lime. The more the gauging the harder and faster the set.
Sand finish is mixed by batch of:
30 lbs of keenes cement
100 lbs of autoclaved ivory lime
(Or equivalent refined finish lime)
200 lbs of silica sand
This will mix a 30 gallon barrel full which will do a average bedroom.
Plaster will set by evaporation. Does not have a positive set. We always save extra by souping up the plaster in our barrel then wash down the sides leaving a couple if inches on top. Plaster can keep for months. When reusing, pull water off the top and stir in a little fresh keenes. (Not too much)
Kirk, you are incredibly generous with your videos and time–thank you. Question: In a bathroom, I've got a layer of structolite, then a coat of USG Easy Sand 45 which I've sanded a bit because my trowling sucks. The Easy 45 was put on about a week ago, but I still plan to use another coat of Diamond for a finish; do I have to use plaster weld again over my Easy 45? Again, thanks for your generosity in sharing your wealth! Jared
Howdy Jared as a rule when you apply structo-lite a veneer should be applied on top,
sinse you applied a gypusum, I would advive a bonding agent as often differt materials don't go well together.
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Hi Kirk. Good stuff dude! I really love your videos. I probably owe my employer 100 hours for watching them 😉 Anywho… I have a few questions for you if you don't mind?….I am planning on veneering the existing walls in my 1872 Victorian. It had floor to ceiling wallpaper everywhere. I removed it all and want to paint. The walls are plaster/lath with some kind of veneer from yesteryear, with hairline crack repairs with some kind of blue latex stuff to seal the former repairs on it through most of the house. My questions…1) Do I fuss over a the wallpaper glue removal process? I am a bit obsessive at times, so I can if there is a concern that the glue will somehow prevent a good bond for the veneer, but I do plan on using Larsen Plaster Weld bonding agent too. 2). I have 3 50# bags of diamond finish coat for my 15'x15' parlor to do the job, but with this construction (lath, plaster, veneer, wallpaper adhesive evidence, should I also have purchased and apply a diamond (or imperial) base coat first? 3). Lastly, the ceiling has evidence of some very thin cracks here and there. Can I just skim them with veneer to repair or should I use a softer compound like structo-lite or something else?
Howdy Todd, the bonding agent Plaster Weld by Larson's is mostly water after you apply it any loose areas of wallpaper will lift, scrape them off then apply more bonding agent in those areas.
I prefer to use a basecoat myself as when it's dry the finish coat adheres much better without blistering or hairlines, A basecoat plaster such a diamond or imperial both made by the same company is as strong as structo-lite also manufatured by USG, so when applying a thin coat, so don't waste your time purchasing structo-lite for just a few cracks.
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Kirk, I am about to attempt to apply Diamond Base and Diamond Finish plaster over Durock. If my base coat sets before I get around to applying the finish coat, do I need to reapply a coat of bonder. I am using USG's Plaster Bonder.
Would also like to know the answer to this. I did a basecoat of imperial on Friday over drywall in a bathroom and was going to apply the diamond veneer finish tomorrow.
Would I apply another layer of plaster weld first, or just wet it down some to help w suction?
Did you guys get this figured out? Just running into the same issue, first time veneer plastering.
Fat and ugly is the way to go!! Much easier to trowel down. Thanks@!!
Howdy James that the facts, jack.
fat and ugly.
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wow. Awesome idea for the bathroom. Do you use a concrete trowel?
Howdy Bigal, no a concrete trowel is not wide enough, I use a customed plastering trowel, as in the discription on amazon there is the exzact trowel i prefer.
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awesome info. Thanks man I really enjoy your vids. very knowledgeable. cheers from Newfoundland Canada
Howdy Bigal my friend from Canada, no worries,
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I watch these videos all the time cause this is my profession and i like seeing it maybe i can pick up a trick or 2 but i notice that kirk really makes this seem alot harder then it really is . Its very simple and time consuming thats pretty much it
Good evening Dom dude, why don't you show and explain also in video, the world needs more teachers.
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@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. I agree my friend no bad remark intended fyi i do watch all ur videos i like ya i think ur a great teacher i just laugh when u say u need 30 years experience u scaring people lol god bless kirk again no hard feelings intended brooklyn ny signing out
HI Kirk, thanks for the great videos. How is X-Kalibur venner plaster as a substrate for wall tile? Does it bond well to thinset mortar?
Evening Sunshine, that plaster is sold in the UK, not here in the U.S. I hear it's an excellent veneer.
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Hi Kirk, if a wall has a Densamor plus Hi impact, can you plaster over that ?
Evening Vettracer Dude, if you're referring to dens glass with the yellow membrane.
I have plastered over that many times. for exterior handle it like you would plywood, paper, and wire, then plaster
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Hello Kirk,
Love this video, thank you!
Would this be the process for my situation for my den:
1. Apply Weld Bond over green lid joint compound on my wall. (Finished skim coat)
2. First coat of Structo-Lite.
3. Second coat of Structo-Lite, if needed.
4. Add silica sand to Structo-Lite for sandy look.
5. Use wet sponge to bring out the sand.
6. Let dry and walls completed.
If you could please let me know that would be great!
Thanks again!
Evening Trujillo, thank you
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Hola Kike i have a cuestion when u are Going to put veener plaster if isbrick wall u need to render first or u can put veener plaster over wall brick
Evening Alejandro, with brick it's necessary to apply a skim coat first, then a finish coat.
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Kirk, when does the red tape come down? After it's set? Before?
Evening Tom, after it's set. Or we're done with the wall.
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when I used to fill in patches in a gypsum plaster wall the plasterers had me put the drywall in grey side out instead of the white. They said the Stuctolite would stick better. What do you think in that case?
Evening John, there are the purple and blue boards that are designed for veneer plasters, I tend to use a bonding agent anyway regardless of the board color or if it's placed on backward. Many ways to skin a cat.
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Evening Mike, thank you.
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Thank you Sir! These video's are very much appreciated, I would have never known all these different approaches and different finnishes. I am a concreteworker but really enjoy learning and trying new things.
Evening Jacob, our pleasure, my friend.
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Hey Kirk, love your videos! I have 800 sq ft of 100 year old plaster (over brick) walls that show their age and have been skimmed with soft taping mud. For durability I’d like to skim coat with diamond. Am I crazy to tackle this diy?
How many sq ft should I apply at a time so that I have the time to finish it before it sets?
Greetings, Ajm, not at all.
I'd recommend removing any loose gypsum, then apply a bonding agent like Larson's, "Plaster Weld," next apply the base coat, allow to set, and finish off with Diamond veneer.
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Hi Kirk! Question – Could I just use Diamond Veneer Plaster directly over blue board with mesh tape? Or does blue board require plaster weld + imperial base coat first? Love the videos and appreciate your knowledge!
Hello Kirk! I've been watching your videos for years – first comment. DIYer here. My house was built in 1908 and I've done tape and mud for some of my repairs and renovations. I'm skilled enough, but I don't like it compared to the plaster walls that are still intact. I'm going to do a closet soon for my next renovation and I'd like to start trying my hand at Imperial base veneer and Diamond finish, just like you do in this video. I can find the tools that I don't already have – no problem. But the USG Diamond and Imperial veneers are proving to be a nightmare to find (I'm up in Minneapolis). I can get them at Menards, but I have to buy 30 at a time. Do you know of any online shops that sell these products in smaller quantities?
That is, with Durrock, mesh tape and plaster weld, of course.
@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. I lost my order of Diamond Veneer Basecoat, which is probably a good thing because of how terribly expensive it is (due to shipping). I ended up (in total) doing Durock, taped together with fiber tape, filled in with Durabond 90, painted with Plaster-Weld and Quikcrete Bonding Adhesive, basecoat veneered with Structo-Lite (which I found pretty easy to work with) and finished coated with USG Easy Sand 45. I wetted each surface with a garden spritzing tool just before application, did my best to trowel to a fine, flat surface with that same garden sprizter and my trowel after each coat began to set. I have a considerable number of holidays and other various imperfections, but the walls look pretty good to me, given how much of a novice I am. It was hard work, I'm amazed you've been able to do it all these years. I hope my choice of Easy Sand 45 doesn't come back to bite me in time. I don't think it has any lime in it, and I believe Structo Lite is meant to be applied with a lime finish. What do you think?
@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. I'm just a home DIYer who couldn't have done any of this without YouTube. I got great guidance from videos by Leah with See Jane Drill and a few of the British/Irish guys who use Thistle… but the greatest wealth of information that just clicked for me came from you. I really appreciate what you do, Kirk. I've got a few solid walls that are newly and nicely insulated, which now look like they came with my house. More importantly, I know I can do this again, if I need to. Blessings to you and your family.
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Can you add a layer of mesh and embedded with the basecoat to help with cracking?
I genuinely hate plaster weld. I always advise my customers to to re sheetrock if they want a proper plaster job. The final product is always better than plastering over glue. Larsons plaster weld is for people who don't want to pay for real plaster over new rock. The only time I want to use it is over wood lath where the 100 year old plaster has failed
@Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. my comments did sound angry and that wasn't my intention. Obviously the ceiling your were plastering was sound. I get so many costumers that have rooms with walls and ceilings that are in poor shape from water damage or with large holes and someone told them that bonding the wall will fix everything. I have to explain that glue doesn't patch holes and fix gypsum board that has been wet from a flooded basement. I just try to give them the best job I can with a fair price. I was asked to plaster over a wood paneled wall that was glued to cinder block. I pulled out the 5 gallon bucket of plaster weld and did it with much reluctance. Finished and was paid.I enjoy your videos and never get tired of seeing new techniques
Been loving these videos! How would you compare Diamond base/finish to setting mud (45 min etc)? Dealing with bowed walls, off by 1/2" max. I've been able to lay the easy sand/setting mud fairly thick but this higher art of plastering has made me wonder if using the Diamond system would be a better route?
Only difference between green board and reg drywall is a thin wax coating on paper…..its so useless that its not even required anymore in many places….in so cal I done several in different cities where it isn't required in water areas like it used to beAnd a good taper can tape that in few hrs with 20 min and topping…no sanding but in shower area plaster is stronger for sure
I am going to be repairing a hole in the sheetrock ceiling in my house. I have to cut the hole to replace plumbing. The hole will be cut to approx. 32 inches by 18 inches. I will be cutting it at the strapping and cutting the patch piece then the ceiling to match the patch. The problem is that it has a 3/16 veneer over the sheetrock. What is the best way to make the joints so that they won't show or crack? specifically how to tape it. I know that I need to cut the beveled edge off the patch piece. The veneer is harder than the sheetrock or dried joint compound, and seems to have very fine sand in it.