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Plaster or stucco over drywall or fiberboard, fast plastering

October 18, 2015 By Stucco Plastering 68 Comments

Plaster or stucco over drywall or fiber board, both are a drag to repair
fast plastering.

Hello again all you DIY weekend plastering warriors today we are giving a few tips on fast plastering O.K. it’s on fast forward but Plaster or stucco over the dreaded drywall or fiber board is always a drag.
Because a fella asked me to about three days ago to explain this board and why it was used.
I took this project to answer his question, thats the kind of fellow I am.

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Plaster or stucco over drywall or fiberboard, fast plastering
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teaching the world to plaster one tip at a time

Some boring history, gypsum and fiberboard sheathing can and has been used for a solid backing for stucco around the 1950s some say fiberboard has been around for hundreds of years while gypsum board, sheetrock or drywall (all name means the exact same thing for the gypsum products) has been around from around the 1950s. Both were better than just studs when applying stucco to a home as they had insulation and sound proofing abilities.
However and here’s the part old Kirk’s familiar with, both are a real drag to tie into if either of these boards gets wet, they become really soft and most time, for say repairs of water damage or window and door replacement, it’s a real drag to get a new water barrier under or over it.

Most times it’s just as difficult as a stud wall with stucco over it.
Gypsum sheathing boards are usually white in appearance in the center, with many different paper coatings.
Both boards were used years ago generally for exterior purposes while gypsum is used for interior purposes as it was sold with a water-resistant paper covering on its face. It was sometimes attached to studs to make a solid backing for stucco or other finishes for brick veneer, it is outdated for a reason!

Fiberboard is usually made from recycled newspaper, wooden fibers, and other products that are glued together. fiberboard can has has been be used for sheathing, as it also provides sufficient backing for stucco at one point in time. early 1900 to 1950 as a rule, of course if a fella today finds it in his garage in 2015 he might still use it. Stranger things have happened!

FYI, anyone interested in the material we used tin this video that would adhere and stick a solid inch at a time, it was Eisenwall cement plaster made by Rapid Set.
This cement plaster can be applied up to 6 inches thick back to back same day.

Eisenwall is a premium hydraulic cement for exterior plastering, one coat stucco and wall repairs, this material requires a citification for good reason, (or used to) it really requires a lot of time in to understand how to mix and apply as it sets REALLY FAST (in 15 minutes to a half hour) unless you add retardants, and is incredibly strong, so strong that if you don’t apply if just right it’s not coming off, even with a sludge hammer.

Rapid set also sells a simullar cement plaster at all the Home Depot’s and Lowes, hardware store, just not this brand, the rapid set you DIY’ers purchase at these hardware store’s already comes with the sand, you just add water. Much more user friendly.
This Eisenwall, we must also add the sand, plus the water, it’s sold at Westside Building Materials and many of the professional plastering material yards, not sure if a citification is still required.

Plaster or stucco over drywall or fiber board, exterior sheetrock, exterior fiber board, fiberboard, fiberboard sheathing, Exterior Gypsum Sheathing, sheetrock under the stucco, Plaster Drywall, fast plastering

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  1. OTC says

    October 18, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    Hey Kirk, Lou got a lot of TV time in this video…LOL he might want a raise? LOL Enjoyed the video man keep up the good work!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 18, 2015 at 11:46 pm

      Evening OTC dude, you asked for louuuu you got louuu, who says he gets paid?
      Cheers!
      Kirk Giordano

      Reply
    • Levi Barros says

      October 19, 2015 at 2:36 am

      +Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips HAHAHAH!!! Good one! =D

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:38 pm

      Morning Levi Clays, thanks bro,
      Cheers,
      Kirk giordano

      Reply
  2. Adr1an110 says

    October 18, 2015 at 10:58 pm

    Great video, how tall are you Kirk?

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 18, 2015 at 11:45 pm

      Evening Adr1an110 dude, thank you.
      I am 6,1 and weigh 120 pounds soaking wet, tall and skinny like a pickle.
      cheers,
      kirk Giordano

      Reply
  3. Don Baus says

    October 19, 2015 at 12:48 am

    Kirk , I think families like yours are the kind of people that make america grate .The job site is like a well oiled machine from the mixer to the guys laying it on and you are a grate leader with your skill level being next to none. I was stationed at Ft.Ord back in 65 66 and the only thing that got plastered was me lol keep up the good work and thanks Jason for the vids.

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      December 3, 2015 at 7:09 am

      Hey Donald Baus, man, too funny, thanks for the bone,
      Best wishes and keep getting sloshed.
      As for me, I'm older and wiser now so the only time I drink is if I'm by myself or with a friend,
      kirk giordano plastering

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      December 3, 2015 at 7:10 am

      Evening Cirage De Soulier, 
      I agree my friend.
      Cheers!
      kirk giordano

      Reply
  4. Steve Rowell says

    October 19, 2015 at 1:38 am

    I could watch hours of the fast-forward stuff.

    Reply
  5. Levi Barros says

    October 19, 2015 at 2:37 am

    I loved it!! Very helpful!! I'm watching as many of your videos as I can because I am gearing up to plaster 3 bedrooms and a 1 bathroom. =D (plot twist : I built those rooms too) haha

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:29 pm

      Morning Levi's dude, thanks brother, then the video below may be more useful.,
      https://youtu.be/LzTvF9xO2cU

      Cheers!
      kirk Giordano

      Reply
    • Levi Barros says

      October 19, 2015 at 9:59 pm

      @Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips Awesome! Saluti Kirk! =D  

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 20, 2015 at 2:15 am

      Evening Levi's dude, thank you.
       Cheers!
       Kirk Giordano

      Reply
  6. KOVID GOON says

    October 19, 2015 at 3:57 am

    hey Kirk got a question!!! so we are getting orange peel in our home tomorrow morning and my wife is asking why cant we add the paint to the hopper gun with the orange peel. is it possible to add the paint color to the orange peel? thanks guys!!!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:34 pm

      Morning jnixongo00, I don't understand what you mean getting the orange peel?
      You mean someone is going to use a hand hopper to spay on a plaster coat or the popcorn ceiling that is usually Perlite or any type of aggregate and gypsum mixed?
      It is possible to add paint to this, but it's a nightmare to get the color you really desire for many reasons.
      Cheers!
      Kirk giordano

      Reply
    • KOVID GOON says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:36 pm

      +Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco tips exactly! thank you

      Reply
  7. WestHaddnin says

    October 19, 2015 at 5:13 am

    interesting

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      Morning West Haddnin dude,
      cool beans daddieo,
      cheers!
      kirk Giordano

      Reply
  8. Peter Moring says

    October 19, 2015 at 8:05 am

    Hey Kirk ….. That Fast-Forward bit?? …… Nearly as fast as 'Me' in the 70's 😉

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      Morning Peter Moring, man you were good, I think this fast setting saved 10 minutes each time of viewing that might have got a bit to boring, but what was not shown was how well the tops and sides adhered to gaps over 1/12 inch deep with this professional material.

      FYI, anyone interested in the material we used tin this video that would adhere and stick a solid inch at a time, it was Eisenwall cement plaster made by Rapid Set.
      This cement plaster can be applied up to 6 inches thick back to back same day.
      Eisenwall is a premium hydraulic cement for exterior plastering, one coat stucco and wall repairs, this material requires a citification for good reason, (or used to) it really requires a lot of time in to understand how to mix and apply as it sets REALLY FAST (in 15 minutes to a half hour) unless you add retardants, and is incredibly strong, so strong that if you don't apply if just right it's not coming off, even with a sludge hammer.

      Rapid set also sells a simullar cement plaster at all the Home Depot's and Lowes, hardware store, just not this brand, the rapid set you DIY'ers purchase at these hardware store's already comes with the sand, you just add water. Much more user friendly.
      This Eisenwall, we must also add the sand, plus the water, it's sold at Westside Building Materials and many of the professional plastering material yards, not sure if a citification is still required.

      best wishes,
      kirk Giordano

      Reply
  9. Arfabiscuit says

    October 19, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Bravo guy's nice to see you Lou , petit a petit as the frogs like to say , finally someone has taken notice of me , can't wait to tell my misses lol .

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:25 pm

      +Morning urassicbark2000, O.K. guys next time well Louuuu posing.
      Cheers!
      kirk Giordano

      Reply
  10. Arfabiscuit says

    October 19, 2015 at 9:38 am

    I must also add that i have built and started to render some retaining walls in my garden , watching your videos gave me the confidence to cover them in stucco . Two coats are being applied , and she who must be obeyed is happy with the job so far . I also plastered the whole interior of my house in no small part thanks to you guys my arms nearly dropped off during the process and i can tip my hat in appreciation of what you chaps do for a living with such dedication bravo and a big Thank you . Martin

    Reply
    • Arfabiscuit says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:11 pm

      Cheers Kirk my life just got even easier .

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:23 pm

      Morning jurassicbark2000 dude, if you are saying you are going to start using this product, DO NOT OVERMIX IT!
      It's a great product but over mixing like all these same day strong products make the cement plaster weak.
      notice I wrote the words do not over mix!, it's no joke.
      Best wishes,
      Kirk giordano

      Reply
    • Arfabiscuit says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:38 pm

      No way just good old Lafarge cement and sand .

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 21, 2015 at 2:52 am

      Evening jurassicbark dude, I here Lafarge is a world leader in North America, with their cements and sand.
      This companies products are not sold in our area.

      Cheers,
      Kirk Giordano

      Reply
    • Arfabiscuit says

      October 21, 2015 at 6:24 am

      Yeah it's a French company i think they're the biggest in the world certainly in Europe .And good morning to you guys on the sunny side of the Atlantic .

      Reply
  11. BeeFriendlyApiary says

    October 19, 2015 at 11:07 am

    Thanks again Kirk…you truly are the master!!!!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:27 pm

      Morning Bee Friendly dude, I'll bet you have beehives?
      Thank you for the cool words.
      Best wishes,
      kirk giordano

      Reply
  12. Phogs Rams says

    October 19, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Good job Kirk,and Jason,its nice happy family

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 19, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      Morning Phogs Rams, thank you my brother,
      Cheers!
      kirk giordano

      Reply
    • Phogs Rams says

      October 27, 2015 at 12:24 pm

      your welcome Kirk and Giordano

      Reply
  13. Peter Moring says

    October 21, 2015 at 10:53 am

    Hey Kirk, check your Twitter-Feed – a little surprise for you 🙂

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 22, 2015 at 6:22 pm

      Morning Peter Moring dude, too cool, 
      Cheers!
      Kirk giordano

      Reply
  14. Dazza skillz says

    October 22, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    Saw you in a magazine today kirky.. Well more like a brochure for plastering tools.. Wack wholesalers… Photo of you with a straight edge i think man.. Your famous!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      June 15, 2017 at 12:12 am

      Howdy Dazza dude, I'd like to see that.
      Live long and plaster
      stucco images and teaching videos

      Reply
  15. Dazza skillz says

    October 22, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    Saw you in a magazine today kirky.. Well more like a brochure for plastering tools.. Wack wholesalers… Photo of you with a straight edge i think man.. Your famous!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 25, 2015 at 1:07 am

      Hey Dazza skillz dude, the only person who calls me kirky is my older sister, but such is life, what magazine? I wanna see it too.
      Cheers!
      kirk giordano

      Reply
  16. Oingo Boingo says

    November 2, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Kirk is God!

    Reply
    • Oingo Boingo says

      November 2, 2015 at 9:14 pm

      +Oingo Boingo Or at least the chosen one since he resurrects the broken!!

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      November 2, 2015 at 11:20 pm

      Easy Big guns, Oingo Boingo, that kind of talk will get me shot.
      thank you and best wishes,
      Kirk Giordano

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      November 2, 2015 at 11:21 pm

      Oingo Boingo, o.k. brother i can live with that, you do mean the broken walls right?
      Cheers!
      kirk Giordano

      Reply
  17. mike johnson says

    April 19, 2016 at 3:49 am

    Is it possible to stucco over Hardiboard inside a house? Or should you add lath to the Hardiboard?

    Thanks
    MJ

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      April 20, 2016 at 9:48 pm

      Hi mike johnson, if it were me I would clean the boards, apply a bonding agent then plaster using strut-lite or any of the fast set gypsum available.
      Westpacs is a popular one.
      Cheers,
      Kirk giordano

      Reply
  18. ggdeflogg says

    February 18, 2017 at 10:53 pm

    gee Kirk, you really are a master of your trade! greetings from an Australian Builder!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      February 18, 2017 at 10:57 pm

      Good Evening Jakergore Dude, thank you and best wishes,
      FYI, all of us here at the giordano plastering channel we wish to thank all our subscribers and those of you who accidentally stumble on our channel a happy and prosperous new year
      kirk giordano plastering

      Reply
  19. bamaward318 says

    June 14, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    Hi Mr Giordani. I Love watching your videos! I am trying to replicate the original smooth, slightly sandy stucco interior wall. We had to do a complete renovation and I was wondering if I could use stucco as a finish on the new drywall in my kitchen? I did a practice piece and it looks really good but will it be stable?

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      June 15, 2017 at 12:12 am

      Howdy Bam Dude, use diamond veneer base and finish coat it's strong and faster plus won't absorb moisture like stucco.
      Live long and plaster
      stucco images and teaching videos

      Reply
    • bamaward318 says

      June 15, 2017 at 12:30 am

      Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. Thank you for your advice. I appreciate it!

      Reply
  20. maradonasssssss says

    August 2, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    all this black plastic moisture barrier Kirk, how is moisture suppose to escape from the house and how are buildibgs suppose to breath?

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      August 4, 2017 at 2:39 am

      Good evening Dude, you can google your question if you get 50 replies all will contradict one another.
      My job in this video is to waterproof the window patch not to allow it to breathe or absorb moisture.
      You are referring to a 3 coat cementitious finish, these three coat color integrated finishes are designed to breath, thus when it rains the walls darken, when dryer condition occurs they return back to their original finish, like a brick.
      Live long and plaster
      teaching plastering video’s

      Reply
    • maradonasssssss says

      August 4, 2017 at 3:00 am

      +Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. i know plaster is permeable but not the black stuff. i understand its a code they use in US. good job anyway

      Reply
    • studio developers2 says

      February 5, 2019 at 8:35 am

      maradonasssssss
      The building will probably breathe if you open windows , or doors ? i know sounds obvious, but it will work. the construction will settle and will not need too much expansion and contracting, unless you live where there is a lot of change in temperature,. even if there is change in temp, it should settle and will stay firm and strong. Im doing a 3d animation of a building i want to build. will upload it.

      Reply
  21. hightttech says

    March 20, 2018 at 3:07 am

    Kirk: love your narration. I think you are the best, even though "…you wrote it."

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 19, 2018 at 11:59 pm

      Howdy Tech Dude, wrote what? I have never written out what I say as I already know what to say. I have seen some writing on the girl's bathroom walls that flatter me, however those I did indeed, write. Live long and plaster, Sharing stucco secrets and or common sense tips

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 20, 2018 at 9:42 pm

      Atta boy High tech, that makes you my newest and bestest pal. Live long and Plaster Kirk Giordano’s plastering and stucco wisdom videos

      Reply
  22. Ryan Burks says

    July 18, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    Hi Kirk: I just started checking out YouTube and I find your videos most helpful! Thank you. I got a question for ya… I am helping a lady out with an art studio add on (which is basically a fully enclosed porch) which I have since insulated and replaced some very rotten wood siding. Being in So Cal, its all termite damaged and we have taken precautions to remove the pests and also replace the siding. I used Hardie Backer cement board to replace the siding. Her house is stucco finished and I want to also stucco her art studio to make it look like it is part of the home. However I find there are very little videos on how to stucco over the cement board. I have purchased a metal meshing to install if necessary, but would you recommend I use any mesh or should I just go get the paper backed chicken wire and go forward from there? Thanks again!!! Your amazing at what you do.

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 19, 2018 at 11:55 pm

      Howdy Ryan, depends, did you install a moister barrier under the Hardi board if so attach 17 gauge stucco netting over the Hardi board into the studs, then stucco.
      If you did not install a moister barrier than you can use the paperback wire that is impregnated into the paper.
      Live long and plaster,
      Sharing stucco secrets and or common sense tips

      Reply
    • Ryan Burks says

      July 25, 2018 at 12:33 am

      Thanks Kirk. Would you say the wire netting is critical? My clients brother (former contractor and window/door specialist) said I should just mud over the Hardi board. There is a paper barrier behind the board.

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 25, 2018 at 5:12 am

      Howdy Ryan, depend on the situation, stucco netting over paper is necessary to hold the stucco.
      Stucco naturally adheres to most cement boards by suction with proper hydration.
      That means mist the boards with water from your garden hose, "not dripping wet," but just a mist, then apply the stucco to it, this, when done properly, forms a strong mechanical bond.
      However, yea, theres more, if you have many seams these will crack if you don't use a quality mesh tape designed for this board.
      Live long and plaster,
      Sharing stucco secrets and or common sense plastering tips

      Reply
    • Ryan Burks says

      August 8, 2018 at 4:06 pm

      Kirk Giordano plastering Inc.
      You rock! Thanks for the tips. Have a great day!

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      August 9, 2018 at 12:29 am

      Howdy Ryan you can use mesh 3.4 wire if you applied a moisture barrier behind the hardie board. if you did not install a moisture membrane you will need paperback stucco netting as hardie board is not waterproof.
      best wishes,
      Sound advice for plastering issues from your favorite stucco geeks.

      Reply
  23. studio developers2 says

    February 5, 2019 at 7:45 am

    LOL sounds like a guy from a theme park ride " we gonna see what we get here, is he ready ? yeah hes ready, ok ladies and gentlemen, here we go, were going in ! woah ! is that king kong i see ? oh my god ! wow lets get on past him and..

    Reply
  24. matthejd1 says

    July 4, 2019 at 6:03 pm

    Kirk… Thank you so much for sharing your craft… I have been watching for over 2 years. Question: I have a issue with Hardie Fiberboard sheets that were used as exterior siding and are now pulling apart creating leak paths. The field joints were just caulked and nailed, no metal flashing at ANY joint 15 years ago after Hurricane Ivan. I now have serious water intrusion issues due to the board literally pulling off the studs, cracking the board, and creating open seams resulting in water intrusion. The only thing that seems to whether the storms on the beach here is concrete and plaster products. I need to ask a stupid question. I am trying to save the existing siding for cost reasons, and just seal the seams or skim coat all of the existing siding to create a NO SEAM finished concert ./ plaster look. I am going to have to remove 3 windows that are also leaking INSIDE due to shoddy workmanship by crappy contractor. When I remove the windows I will surely have additional cracking and breakage of the siding. So what I want to do is nail the siding back to the studs to make it letdown, then apply fiberglass tape to the joints and them use some concrete or plaster product to mud the seams. I am also interested to know if I can skim coat or plaster over all the siding creating a solid concrete look. I want to seal the seams and add structural protection using this method. Is that something you can recommend? I want to permanently seal all seams. A more costly option will be to remove all siding on this 2 story home then remove all the plywood backing board, than install cement board verses siding. (like the Knauf Aquapanel Exterior Cement product / process… Need recommendations feel free to hit me up at Matthejd1@yahoo.com or reply here… much appreciated.. .Jim In Pensacola Beach Fl…. Help me out and when I finish this remodel I have a week on the beach free for you and the family ! Later man..

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  25. Rob Re says

    December 29, 2020 at 4:20 am

    brother loooooou! lou s the man mixing specialist

    Reply
    • Rob Re says

      December 29, 2020 at 4:51 am

      @Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. I’m a taper of 20yrs in Connecticut love the videos especially the interior veneer finish looks just like compound all the best

      Reply

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