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Tie in new stucco paper to old stucco paper

February 28, 2014 By Stucco Plastering 53 Comments

Tie in new stucco paper to old stucco paper, stucco breakout

In this video I am explaining how to best achieve a stucco tie in when adding new paper to old worn out beat up paper.

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Tie in new stucco paper to old stucco paper, stucco breakout

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  1. celticslimjim says

    February 28, 2014 at 7:34 am

    An informative video made enjoyable thanks to your wit, expertise, and great video editing. Loved hearing the directing bit at 5:46.

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      February 28, 2014 at 4:40 pm

      Hi celticslimjim, Thanks, Jason always has to  set me straight about what not to worry about as far as sound and what the camera can and can't see. 
       I leave that technical stuff to Jason and  just do the easy stuff like explaining what we do.
       Cheers!
       Kirk, Jason and family

      Reply
  2. Gil Velazquez says

    February 28, 2014 at 7:46 am

    Thanks for the lesson Mr. Geordano I wished I new this 3Years ago that would help me alot I see you got another. Stapler too THANKS AGAIN

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      February 28, 2014 at 4:30 pm

      Hey Gil old buddy, Man, you're observant to notice a new gun.
       We got lucky with having decent paper on this one, many times there nothing left and I'm forced to explain this to the home owner. Thats always a drag.
       Keep in mind if you use strength with a hammer you will push the stucco into the deteriorating paper and render it useless, but Jason used skill and a bulldog to gently break out the stucco allowing us some decent paper.
       Cheers brother.
       kirk, Jason and family

      Reply
  3. Peter Agostini jdcap26 tips an repairs and hobbies says

    February 28, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    There was door  above the garage ? Oil them air tools less you have a  auto  oiler just  my  2 cents. cheers TU TY 

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      February 28, 2014 at 4:35 pm

      Peter old pal, I usually add a drop of two into the air valve before using my air tools as the self oilers get in the way and get damaged.
      At my home I do have a self oiler but this compressor doesn't get tossed around like a cork on the ocean.
      It wasn't stuck at the end I just added more staple's and forgot to unlatch it.
      Cheers bro.
       kirk, Jason and family

      Reply
  4. FUNNYBIRDS says

    February 28, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    how the hell you break back like that without chasing tears in that paper. would drive me nuts. in the end i would set the deph on my skill saw. and cut trying to just barely hit the wire. then that would give me a nice deep score. you know what happends next. but i know u know all the strick . my dad will be here in a coupke days. cand wait to dhow him these vids. hes gonna love you.

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      March 1, 2014 at 7:55 pm

      Hi Chaddy dude, I had to use a bull dog with a half inch bit, If I used a hammer and muscle I would destroyed the paper, with the electric tool Jason left the paper workable condition,
      Thanks for the kind words and have a groovy day! 
      Kirk Jason and family

      Reply
  5. harwin hooijmans says

    March 1, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    kirk you are true craftsman keep up the good job greets from a dutch licenced plasterer (hooijmans plastering) the netherlands

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      March 1, 2014 at 8:00 pm

      Hello harwin hooijmans my fellow plasterer from hooijmans plastering, no better compliment but from a fellow tradesman,
      Best wishes plastering in the Netherlands.
       kirk and family

      Reply
  6. DH4 Plastering says

    March 4, 2014 at 11:18 pm

    Sure ya got enough tacks in that paper haha!! Nice one Kirk!!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      March 9, 2014 at 3:35 am

      Evening Greg, thank you.
       cheers! 
      Kirk and family

      Reply
  7. MrBodaciousbob says

    March 16, 2014 at 12:55 am

    Great video! Anything wrong with using Tyvek to tie into (very) old felt paper? Or should I stick with felt?

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      March 17, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      Hello MrBodaciousbob, in my city we are required to use tow layers of paper, felt or tyvek can be used it's easier to simply use two layer paper for me as they are spot glued together.
       Best wishes,
       kirk giordano plastering

      Reply
  8. Zakk Gardner says

    October 20, 2014 at 8:37 am

    Do you have any suggestions, Kirk for breaking up the stucco (getting it off the lath for use as a tie-in) when there is nothing but a few strands of bailing wire stretched behind it to bash it against with my hammer?
     In other words –  the stucco isn't backed by plywood sheathing.

    Tearing the old stucco off its lath and exposing enough intact paper for proper overlap is a b  i  t  c  h.
    (I spelled out "bitch" in case there are any kids reading this.) I'm about to unbolt my freekin' bench vise and crush it off the lath that way.

    Anyway, response or not I thank you for all the good information you've already provided.

    P.S. I don't have access to a bulldog, but I do have my old air hammer/chisel from my former career in car audio installation. Maybe I should try putting that back into service on this job? Tuck a piece of thin sheet metal behind the stucco as I go along maybe? Am I answering my own question?

    P.P.S. One more please? Do you consider "Grip Rite" house wrap appropriate for this application? I have some on hand already. thnx

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    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 20, 2014 at 5:09 pm

      Morning Zakk Gardner,  Copy and paste these codes below to see how I do it,   http://youtu.be/LD__VzxdT1g
      http://youtu.be/snC0JTZiFko
      You have it correct, it's a real bitch getting a decent tie in from a stud wall, I do show this snail process on a few videos.
      Equally difficult is the  chunks that occur with stud walls,
      I recommend you break back a quarter inch at a time instead of say 1 inch and use a half inch bit, not a point or 1 inch or more bit.
      You can cut these chucks off as best as possible, but it's still very time consuming and a hell of a drag.
      The grip right is similar to Dupont's Tyvek paper but I'm no engineer to say which is better.
      We are required to use two layers of paper in my area so I use two layered paper that is spot glued.
      Best wishes with the nasty job of breakout on stud walls.
      Kirk & Jason Giordano’s DIY plastering and stucco channel

      Reply
    • Zakk Gardner says

      October 21, 2014 at 2:54 am

      Knowing that I'm doing something critical (to the life of a house) properly removes much of the bitch factor from the job equation…
      much obliged, Kirk, for all the pointers.

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      October 22, 2014 at 2:34 am

      Hi Zakk Gardner, no worries,
      It's all maintenance, just like our bodies.
       Best wishes,
      Zakk Gardner

      Reply
  9. Anthony Miletic says

    November 21, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Hi- great videos and even better craftsmanship! I wish you were on the East coast.
      I'm in the middle of framing an addition to my 1930's stucco tudor house and there is no sheeting just EIFS board under the tar paper. The framer sub came in and straight cut all of the stucco with a grinder where they needed to tie in and paid no attention that there is no sheeting and didn't care about vapor barriers or giving me meat to correctly break out the stucco and tie in the wire. My question is what is the right way to fix this? I have pictures in my drop box if you want to see. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fqqa5xaqieu0rni/AAA97CBGN_Y6Ls9OV0Xtvra2a?dl=0
    I know you probably have tons of posts so I'll explain what I think is the right way to do this and I would appreciate any help.

    I want to have them remove what they did and nail in 1/2" cdx sheeting to match up to the thickness of the existing EFIS then try to break out some stucco and tie in with grade D 2 ply like you showed in this video.  then i would have them reinstall the ledger board and roof and right on top of the roof tie in to the building I would have them flash with 45deg metal flashing under the existing tar paper and try to fit in a z-channel counterflashing ontop. This is hard to explain but maybe it will make sense.

    again, can't tell you how informative your videos are!

    THANKS to the whole crew!

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    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      November 22, 2014 at 1:51 am

      Evening Anthony Miletic, below is a video which give you a beter idea of the proper tool to use for the best and easiest breakout of stucco,
      http://youtu.be/G4eDDx-ZUfk
       Best wishes, it's a  real drag breaking out stucco.
       Kirk & Jason Giordano’s DIY plastering videos

      Reply
    • Anthony Miletic says

      November 23, 2014 at 4:02 pm

      +Kirk & Jason Giordanos DIY plastering and stucco instructional videos and forum
      That's a great video, thanks for the link and the quick response. I see you use both super jumbo tex 60 and tyvek stucco wrap. they are both good systems but I wonder what you would suggest to use. Also is it better to install the windows first then paper or paper then windows.

      Thanks again

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      November 23, 2014 at 7:57 pm

      Morning Anthony Miletic, no worries,
       Kirk and Jasons DIY plastering network

      Reply
  10. Mike Ky says

    May 25, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    Great video.  Thanks Kirk for explaining in it a way that keeps you awake and interested.  Got Stucco broken away for the flashing around the dormer on a 12/12 pitch roof.  I needed a heads up on how to waterproof and tie in wight he net.  Thanks to you guys.

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    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      September 5, 2016 at 1:08 am

      Evening Mike, thank you,
      cheers,
      kir giordano rendering

      Reply
  11. Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

    May 25, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    Hello again Mike KY, Thank you, happy to hear our DIY plastering and stucco subscribers/warriors get an idea of how to do it  properly themselves.
     Have a fantastic day!
     Kirk and Jason giordano

    Reply
  12. acdc Cu says

    February 13, 2017 at 3:40 am

    I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS KIRK THEY'RE SO HELPFUL THANK YOU SO MUCH WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST COLOR FINISH TO WORK WITH? STUCCO RAPIDSET COLOR FROM HOME DEPOT WILL WORK FOR ANY STUCCO JOB? THANK YOU!!!!!!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      February 13, 2017 at 4:44 am

      Howdy dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap, dude, I prefer La Habra or BMI color finishes myself, but sometimes you gotta use what's available.
      Best wishes with your projects,
      Kirk giordano plastering on small repairs

      Reply
  13. Tim says

    June 29, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    Kirk, thank you for doing these videos! It's helped me plan for my own house stucco project, and even do some of the work myself, so thank you!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      June 29, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      Howdy Tim Dude, Cool Beans Daddieo, happy to be of help,
      Live long and plaster
      plastering and teaching video’s

      Reply
  14. Nigel Sutcliffe says

    July 19, 2017 at 4:23 am

    Do you need let the polyurethane caulking fully cure before the scratch coat goes on? some of that stuff takes a week to cure!

    Reply
  15. Robert w S says

    December 17, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    Kirk what size staple are you shooting. Are they flat or crown? Could crown be used?

    Reply
    • Robert w S says

      December 17, 2017 at 9:45 pm

      You rock Kirk. Thanks to you my repairs I do now are sound and customers are happy. Merry Christmas to you and Family.

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      December 18, 2017 at 3:16 pm

      Good evening Robert dude, thank you, and a happy holiday season to you and yours
      Live long and plaster
      Sharing the plastering knowledge

      Reply
    • Robert w S says

      December 18, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      Kirk thank you for making it clear about its only cement. No matter what they are calling it. And the diffrent grades of sand for the differnt applications. Why is brown coat called that if its nothing but portland cement.

      Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      December 19, 2017 at 9:38 pm

      Good Morning Robert dude, no idea, I even googled it, if you have the time and patients to discover why I'd like to know.

      Live long and plaster
      Kirk and Jason Giordano plastering tips

      Reply
    • rzl dzl says

      October 14, 2019 at 12:06 am

      My opinion is the brown coat can have more sand than the scratch, so it is (can be) more brown!

      Reply
  16. John Klauzinski says

    August 17, 2018 at 2:20 am

    Hi Kirk .Can u use weldkrete (concrete bond )and caulking ?

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      August 18, 2018 at 7:27 pm

      Good Afternoon John, not sur what you are refferring to, for exterior stucco you need a moister barrior and stucco netting.
      best wishes,
      Sound advice for plastering issues from your favorite stucco geek

      Reply
  17. Rachale Lee, Plummer says

    August 30, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    We're not tapping shit in LoL my favorite part

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      August 31, 2018 at 11:44 pm

      Howdy Rachale, i foget somtimes were a rated g channel.
      best wishes,
      Sound advice for plastering repairs from your favorite stucco geek

      Reply
  18. Taylor Young says

    October 19, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    Love your videos, very informative. I notice that you put the new paper under the existing when the tie in is going horizontal. When you tie in vertical are you putting the new paper over the old? I'm replacing a window in an existing stucco opening and wondering if I should put new paper under the existing at the head, but over existing on the sides and I assume on the bottom it should go over the existing paper. Maybe you have a video that explains this but might have missed it.

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    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 24, 2019 at 6:53 am

      Evening Taylor, we have about 40 explaining in details.
      One should always tuck under the top existing layer, on the sides, you can either go over or behind the existing paper or on top.
      As a rule, I like to staple down the existing at the verticals then apply a new sheet on top.
      Your correctomundo, on bottoms go over as mush paper for patchwork as possible.
      On new work go over the weep screed.

      Sharing stucco secrets and or common sense plastering tips
      Kirk Giordano Plastering

      Reply
  19. Jonas Werner says

    July 16, 2019 at 4:37 am

    holy shiiiiiit that is the most hilarious 8 min learning vid ive ever seen. thanks from santa cruz!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 24, 2019 at 6:27 am

      Evening Jonas, man, I sho-nuff like your style.
        Sharing stucco secrets and or common sense plastering tips
      Kirk Giordano Plastering

      Reply
  20. Kristin Karpinski says

    July 21, 2019 at 9:19 pm

    Another Fantastic Video! Thank you!

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      July 24, 2019 at 6:27 am

      Evening Kristen, thank you, my friend.
        Sharing stucco secrets and or common sense plastering tips
      Kirk Giordano Plastering

      Reply
  21. 803brando says

    December 13, 2019 at 4:00 am

    cant go wrong with sika. tremco dymonic is good too

    Reply
  22. Anonymous says

    May 9, 2020 at 5:09 am

    Since when did matthew mcconaughey become a handyman?

    Reply
  23. jfarinacci0329 says

    October 6, 2020 at 3:06 am

    Good work. Thank you.

    Reply
  24. Marcos Mejia says

    December 9, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    Great videos! Just deleted/removed a window and using various videos of yours I'm about to finish that project!

    Reply
  25. Tyrant Select of the Divided States says

    December 13, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    "Were not tapping shit in" LMFAO

    Reply
  26. Drew D says

    January 29, 2021 at 6:30 am

    What kind of paper do I get? What type or size staples do you use on the paper vs the Chicken wire. Any polyurethane caulking will work? Do you have to tie chicken wire together? What kind of mud and how many layers to go over that repair. How does color come into play? Or just paint once it’s all done? Also are you supposed to seal the stucco ?

    Reply
    • Kirk Giordano plastering Inc. says

      January 29, 2021 at 7:01 am

      Hi John, I'd recommend a water-resistant barrier for stucco, Two-Ply Super Jumbo Tex 60 Minute comprises two layers of asphalt-saturated building paper.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxfR2…​ Staples vs. Furring Nails, furring nails for stucco lath. Sikaflex 1A caulking. I'd also recommend you watch some of the videos. Next, you will want me to come and apply the stucco for you, as most of your questions can be answered if you click on the discription.Kirk Giordano plastering

      Reply

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